[NL2-NL10] NL10 BSS FR K,Qs

    • Tim64
      Tim64
      Black
      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 7,401
      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      BB:
      $11.03
      MP1:
      $10.15
      Hero:
      $23.89

      0.05/0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q:spade: , K:spade:
      3 folds, MP1 raises to $0.40, Hero calls $0.40, 4 folds, BB calls $0.30.

      Flop: ($1.25) Q:heart: , J:spade: , 9:spade: (3 players)
      BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets $0.75, BB raises to $2.58, MP1 folds, Hero raises to $4.41, BB raises to $10.63 (All-In), Hero calls $6.22.

      Turn: ($22.51) 8:club:
      River: ($22.51) K:diamond: (2 players)


      Final Pot: $22.51

      Any thoughts?
      Thanks,
      Tim
  • 5 replies
    • maya1984
      maya1984
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.12.2008 Posts: 1,741
      I'm shiping the flop too. nh ,wp!
    • silent21
      silent21
      Global
      Joined: 08.08.2008 Posts: 1,556
      villain is not so loose, i guess he had T9/TJ/QJ/99/TT type of hand.

      u are having monster draw and it would be better if you shoved the flop and not to call his push. calling is ok also, u have alot of outs.

      nh
    • Jaissica
      Jaissica
      Bronze
      Joined: 10.02.2009 Posts: 1,385
      We dont cold-call QKs preflop in full ring. Too often we are getting ourselves into dominated territory. 78s is better for a cold call than QKs simply because raisers rarely have us outkicked if we hit pairs / exposed trips.

      If the opponent is so loose that QKs is a big hand vs them, you 3bet with it, not cold-call. MP1 raises 11% and is positionally aware (steal 27%) so his open raise from MP1 is probably around 8%. That range has us smashed. Fold preflop.

      As played on the flop, our initial bet should be bigger. Our bet here is only 60% pot size, might as well make others who have worse flush draws pay, while protecting ourselves from :f_love: with ace-rag suited.

      Bet more like $1-pot.

      Our line is bet-shove, with TPGK and 12 monster outs (1 str flush, 8 flush, 3 straight, all crack a set) plus 5 more marginal outs to 2p / exposed trips to beat a smaller 2p or a misplayed slowplayed AA.

      So when the BB raises us to $2.58, we raise to triple that. Given that it puts most the rest of our stack in if we raise to $7.50, just ship it in then and there.
    • Tim64
      Tim64
      Black
      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 7,401
      Hey Jaissica and others,

      Thanks for the really helpful advice and analysis. Just getting started with BSS (probably should start lower limit but hard to when BR supports higher) so not comfortable with using player ranges yet.

      Will start playing more by the book SHC now - it should be enough to win at this limit, I guess.

      Thanks again.
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello,

      Originally posted by Jaissica
      We dont cold-call QKs preflop in full ring. Too often we are getting ourselves into dominated territory. 78s is better for a cold call than QKs simply because raisers rarely have us outkicked if we hit pairs / exposed trips.

      If the opponent is so loose that QKs is a big hand vs them, you 3bet with it, not cold-call. MP1 raises 11% and is positionally aware (steal 27%) so his open raise from MP1 is probably around 8%. That range has us smashed. Fold preflop.

      As played on the flop, our initial bet should be bigger. Our bet here is only 60% pot size, might as well make others who have worse flush draws pay, while protecting ourselves from :f_love: with ace-rag suited.

      Bet more like $1-pot.

      Our line is bet-shove, with TPGK and 12 monster outs (1 str flush, 8 flush, 3 straight, all crack a set) plus 5 more marginal outs to 2p / exposed trips to beat a smaller 2p or a misplayed slowplayed AA.

      So when the BB raises us to $2.58, we raise to triple that. Given that it puts most the rest of our stack in if we raise to $7.50, just ship it in then and there.
      +1, but I am not saying that it's not possible to play such hand profitable on MP2, it's very marginal and needs much postflop skills so for avoiding that just fold it preflop.

      Best regards,
      Rensu