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Noobie Q's

    • p0rkus
      Joined: 03.03.2009 Posts: 230
      Well now that its getting close to the time when Ill be getting an account registered, I would like some help.

      I am a beginner, but I have alot of time, and lots of interest in your materials. I would like to start with FL because...I dunno, I have played it before, and it seems to be the least risky, or maybe for something else :)

      So I have looked at various rooms to put in starting capital and have questions:

      Leaning towards due to bad players + no one taking away the 50USD But do help me

      1 - Is it possible to eventually get a different account tracked at a different platform (i get bored of 888 and want to play party etc... can i make an account there and get it tracked by you for strategy points?)

      2 - any recommendations for FL?

      3 - site with the easiest (min 100USD) clearing of the starting capital?

      4 - site with easiest gain of PokerStrategy points?

      5 - anything i should know? (waging 5000USD hard? does money bet but not called by others conisdered waged?)

      Obviously question 1 is the most important because worst case scenario is I move the bankroll somewhere else.
  • 11 replies
    • LuborC
      Joined: 20.04.2008 Posts: 1,243
      1 - Yes. The only limitation is that you can only have one account at each site and you have to enter the correct code when you create the account so you cannot get any of the account you already have tracked.
      2 - Pokerstars is the biggest site there is and it's the best one for pretty much any game variant IMO..
      3 - I think the starting capital is pretty easy to clear at any site.
      4 - I think Party Poker but recently they made some changes to their point system so it might not be true anymore..
      5 - Read all the bronze articles and watch as many videos as you can before you start playing. Investing your time in that is very much wort it.
    • straddler71
      Joined: 03.07.2008 Posts: 516
      As lubor suggested pokerstars is probably the best for limit or any other game for that matter. Always lots of tables going on at any time of day.

      As for generation of strategy points think mansion is the best right now. You get 4 strategy points for every $1 rake that you generate.

      I wouldn't select as your platform. There aren't many fl tables going on there. Although the players are soft there and don't know how easy clearing the starting cap will be there.


    • SheepMoose
      Joined: 15.01.2009 Posts: 854
      I think you should join full tilt. You'll get 27% rakeback through pokerstrategy.
    • SoyCD
      Joined: 20.02.2008 Posts: 6,356
      Hello p0rkus and good to see you are getting ready for the starting capital :)

      If you are planning on playing FL I would actually advise against Pacific Poker since there is next to no FL traffic there. Instead I would go for one of the bigger platforms such as Party, Mansion, Titan, PokerStars or Full Tilt. These have enough FL traffic and good rake structure for the micro limits.

      After clearing your starting capital - you can at any time take it off the site and move it to another site (with the added bonus of getting a first deposit bonus there). If you use the sign-up guides found in the following section:

      You will also be tracked at those sites and be able to receive StrategyPoints there.

      Good luck in your career and I hope you keep us updated :)

      Best regards
    • p0rkus
      Joined: 03.03.2009 Posts: 230
      Thanks alot. Now I have two more questions (actually I have had them for a while but forgot about them!)

      1 - I don't understand ''rake you helped generate''

      does this mean that:

      1.1 - rake CASINO gets from current pot YOU ARE IN = 20cents = 20cents is now your rake

      1.2 - rake CASINO gets from current pot YOU HAVE WON = 20 cents = 20 cents is now your rake

      1.3 - rake PokerStrategy gets from current pot YOU ARE IN etc...
      1.4 - BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA YOU HAVE WONetc..?

      2 - I don't understand rakeback, I see it is on many different platforms and only through pokerstartegy, but what is it?
    • TornAces
      Joined: 19.05.2009 Posts: 39
      Basically "rake" is the money that the site you are playing on takes from the money you win in any given hand... in laymans terms lets call it "tax".. ie. You win a $15.00 pot you will actually only recieve $14.00 ( dependant on the site ) because the site takes a portion of every hand, this is where the site makes a proportion of its money.

      Rakeback means that depending on the rakeback percentage scheme you are on that once a month ( or once a week, depending on the site ) you will get that percentage of your "tax" back.

      I hope this helps :D
    • p0rkus
      Joined: 03.03.2009 Posts: 230
      I understand what rake itself is, also i understand what rakeback is. But the real question is described in my previous post. What qualifies as rake + rakeback?
    • chuongdk
      Joined: 22.03.2009 Posts: 210
      to clear 1st deposit, choice big site and then read its point system, some site have sick system, example: red king poker only count rake hand if you put $ to pot (not if you got dealt card), ocean poker only give point to you if you play mid-stake (you got 0.00 point if this site get < 0.10$ rake in a hands)
    • Volrath89
      Joined: 23.07.2008 Posts: 2,171
      You have to read about it in poker room's page for detailed info, because the way every site handles rake and points is different..

      But, usually at most sites Rake is

      1.1 - rake CASINO gets from current pot YOU ARE IN

      It doesn't matter if you lose the hand, you still pay rake.
    • Gafny
      Joined: 05.11.2008 Posts: 337
      Originally posted by p0rkus
      I understand what rake itself is, also i understand what rakeback is. But the real question is described in my previous post. What qualifies as rake + rakeback?
      Most rooms goes by "no flop no drop" which means that rake is only taken from a hand where the flop is shown.

      There are also 2 types of rakeback; contributed and shared.
      When the room has contributed rakeback system you only get rakeback from the rake you have contributed to the pot. This is good for the loose player.
      When shared everyone on the table who was dealt cards are eligible for a part of the rake which is (rake/players on the table). This is good for the tight player.
    • TornAces
      Joined: 19.05.2009 Posts: 39
      There are several ways for the rake to be taken:

      Pot rake
      A percentage rake is taken directly from the pot. In a live casino, the dealer manually removes chips from the pot while the hand is being played and sets them aside to be dropped into a secure box after completion of the hand. When playing online, the rake is taken automatically by the game software. Some software shows the rake amount next to a graphical representation of the dealer and takes it incrementally between the rounds of betting, whereas other software programs wait until the entire hand is over and then takes it from the pot total before giving the rest to the winner of the hand.

      Dead drop
      The fee is placed on the dealer button each hand by the player in that position, and taken in by the dealer before any cards are dealt.

      Time collection
      Time collection (also "timed rake" or "table charge") is a set fee collected (typically) every half hour during the game. This form of rake is collected in one of two ways:

      Player time: A set amount is collected from each player.
      Time pot: A set amount is collected from the first pot over a certain amount.
      Time rakes are generally reserved for higher limit games ($10-$20 and above).

      [edit] Tournament fees
      The above examples are used in ring games, also known as cash games. The rake for participation in poker tournaments is collected as an entrance fee. This may be displayed by showing the tournament buy-in as $100+$20, with the $20 being the house fee or "Vig".

      Subscription fees
      Some online cardrooms charge a monthly subscription fee, and then do not rake individual pots or tournaments.

      Rake free
      Some online poker websites have done away with the rake altogether. These "rake free" poker rooms generate revenue by increasing traffic to the company's other profitable businesses, such as sports betting