[NL2-NL10] A9s nl100

    • Aimboy
      Aimboy
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      Joined: 03.06.2008 Posts: 11,940
      PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      saw flop

      SB ($48.85)
      BB ($16.50)
      UTG ($21.50)
      UTG+1 ($24.70)
      MP1 ($26.70)
      MP2 ($18.50)
      MP3 ($85.40)
      Hero (CO) ($23.20)
      Button ($22.05)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with A, 9
      5 folds, Hero bets $3.50, 2 folds, BB raises to $16.50 (All-In), Hero calls $13

      Flop: ($33.50) 6, 10, 7 (2 players, 1 all-in)

      Turn: ($33.50) A (2 players, 1 all-in)

      River: ($33.50) 3 (2 players, 1 all-in)

      Total pot: $33.50 | Rake: $1.65

      Villain: 8/8 70k hands, 3bet 5%, 3bet vs steal 17%, bb vs steal 86, cc - 0%, I think thats tipical sss, so let's say we both (me and villain) had 20bb stack, how would play it?
  • 4 replies
    • burek2000
      burek2000
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      Joined: 16.11.2007 Posts: 3,105
      Hey Aimboy,

      against 17% resteal range you have 47.3% equity with A9s. With 16.5$ effective stack you need 40.8% equity and thus you should go broke. If you both had 20BB stacks you would need 42.9% equity, so you would still have to go broke.

      You can make those calculations yourself for every hand you encounter, it's easy...

      For equity you just put your ranges in the equilator and for needed equity you use a formula...

      [hero's investment/(final pot)*rake]*100=needed equity

      hero's investment is the amount you have to call the push with

      final pot is the pot after you and your opponent are all-in, including hero's investment, hero's initial bet, opponent's investment and the dead money(small blind in this hand)

      for the rake you just use 0.95 for 5% rake

      ...if I wrote this too unclear feel free to ask.

      Regards,
      burek2000
    • Aimboy
      Aimboy
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      Joined: 03.06.2008 Posts: 11,940
      I think there is an easier way to calculate that (at least I prefer it):

      pot odds: (3,5+16,5) / 13 = 1,53

      (1,53+1)^-1 = 0,395 = needed equity

      In this calculations I treat blinds as a rake, because when I have to count something fast I have no time to include rake.

      According to your method for needed equity it is:

      13 / (16,5+16,5+1,5)*0,95 = 13/32,775 = 0,396, so I think you made a mistake somewhere in your calculations (or I did).

      Anyway, thank you for your time :)

      PS. Do you use xarry's chart? I had just downloaded it and I see that ranges are a little diffrent from equilator ranges, f.eg. 4,7% according to xarry: TT+ AQ+ and 4,7% in equilator: 99+, AJs+, KQs, AKo. It doesn't change equity a lot, but I'm not sure is it the best way to use xarry's orignal chart or to modify it with equilator ranges?
    • burek2000
      burek2000
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      Joined: 16.11.2007 Posts: 3,105
      Good, if you have way to calculate equity fast use your method, I just wrote down in case you wouldn't be familiar with calculating odds/equity yet.

      I personally just use [(2xeffective stack + dead money)^-1]*hero's investment, it's fastest I came up with. :)

      For my method... ...you made a mistake, because you counted the big blind as dead money, but you cannot, because he's pushing against you, therefore...

      13 / (16,5+16,5+0,5)*0,95 = 40,848

      Actually I don't use xarry's chart although it would be wise to do so. I just put a % number in the equilator and modify it myself if it doesn't seem too realistic. :)

      If you have xarry's charts they're certainly more accurate than equilator's default ranges, so it's better to use them.
    • Aimboy
      Aimboy
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      Joined: 03.06.2008 Posts: 11,940
      Oh, yes you're right, I forgot he was on big blind here :P
      Thanks, for your help, now i'm going to print xarry's equity chart and start to play with it.