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[NL2-NL10] NL25 FR - Q,8o - steal

    • Tim64
      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 8,028
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      0.1/0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by

      Preflop: Hero is SB with 8:heart: , Q:club:
      6 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, BB calls $0.50.

      Flop: ($1.50) 9:spade: , 4:club: , Q:spade: (2 players)
      Hero bets $1.00, BB calls $1.00.

      Turn: ($3.50) 7:club: (2 players)
      Hero raises $3.25 (All-In), BB calls $3.25.

      River: ($10.00) J:spade: (2 players)

      Final Pot: $10.00

      In fact, villain called with nothing, had a weak flush draw on flop and hit it on the river. However, at what point should I give up this hand, if at all? Villain going to showdown with rubbish - 50% of time.
  • 4 replies
    • dandycal
      Joined: 10.10.2008 Posts: 1,711
      I'd give up pre-flop really. Q8o is not such a good hand for stealing imo, and villain doesn't seem to be tight enough for an ATS.
    • MancaMulas
      Joined: 12.03.2009 Posts: 4,494
      Q8 does not appear in the chart = fold! :P
    • ShinShya
      Joined: 20.04.2009 Posts: 90

      This guy in the BB is way to loose to be stealing from. His stats indicate the standard ultra loose passive player, who will never fold. After you do raise on the button though and he calls, your continuation bet is fine. You've gotta be done with the hand on the turn though, you are almost always beat here.


      If you really are certain that this guy is going to showdown with nothing 50% of the time, then your play on the turn is fine. I'd definitely fold this PF knowing he will never fold though.
    • Gerv
      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      Hi Tim,

      Only steal if you are certain BB gives up his blinds often enough (Requirements: No high VPIP/PFR, >80% fbb2steal etc.etc.)

      As played, it is tricky with Q8o since it is very marginal but as soon as you hit toppair, I would play it just like you

      - Gerv