[NL2-NL10] 25NL FR Overplayed TPTK?

    • csnmf
      Joined: 22.11.2006 Posts: 444
      Sorry about the hand history as its from the cryptologic network and i dont think its compatible with the hand converter

      Game #4253934314: Hold'em NL ($0.15/$0.25) - 2007/01/22 - 14:19:46 (UK)
      Table "Andbeyond" Seat 4 is the button.
      Seat 1: csnmf ($23.45 in chips)
      Seat 2: boosted ($41.69 in chips)
      Seat 3: Targenor ($4.35 in chips)
      Seat 4: hales2m ($21.80 in chips)
      Seat 5: Shotfru ($4.25 in chips)
      Seat 6: bennekom ($57.29 in chips)
      Seat 7: Noronen ($26.15 in chips)
      Seat 8: Iank2203 ($29.90 in chips)
      Seat 9: QueenKes ($23.70 in chips)
      Seat 10: Keyman ($2.51 in chips)
      Shotfru: posts small blind $0.15
      bennekom: posts big blind $0.25
      ----- HOLE CARDS -----
      dealt to csnmf [Kd As]
      Noronen: folds
      Iank2203: calls $0.25
      QueenKes: calls $0.25
      Keyman: calls $0.25
      csnmf: raises to $1.50
      boosted: folds
      Targenor: folds
      hales2m: folds
      Shotfru: folds
      bennekom: folds
      Iank2203: calls $1.25
      QueenKes: folds
      Keyman: folds
      ----- FLOP ----- [9d 3d Ah]
      Iank2203: checks
      csnmf: bets $3
      Iank2203: calls $3
      ----- TURN ----- [9d 3d Ah][9s]
      Iank2203: checks
      csnmf: bets $8
      Iank2203: calls $8
      ----- RIVER ----- [9d 3d Ah 9s][2h]
      Iank2203: checks
      csnmf: bets $10.95 and is all-in
      Iank2203: calls $10.95
      ----- SHOW DOWN -----
      csnmf: shows [Kd As] (Two Pairs, Aces and Nines, King high)
      Iank2203: shows [9c Qc] (Three of a kind, Nines, Ace high)
      Iank2203 collected $45.45 from Main pot
      ----- SUMMARY -----
      Total pot $47.80 Main pot $45.45 Rake $2.35
      Board [9d 3d Ah 9s 2h]
      Seat 1: csnmf showed [Kd As] and lost with Two Pairs, Aces and Nines, King high
      Seat 2: boosted folded before Flop (didn't bet)
      Seat 3: Targenor folded before Flop (didn't bet)
      Seat 4: hales2m (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
      Seat 5: Shotfru (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
      Seat 6: bennekom (big blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
      Seat 7: Noronen folded before Flop (didn't bet)
      Seat 8: Iank2203 showed [9c Qc] and won ($45.45) with Three of a kind, Nines, Ace high
      Seat 9: QueenKes folded before Flop (didn't bet)
      Seat 10: Keyman folded before Flop (didn't bet)
      ****HAND ENDS****

      At the time i thought he just had a weak ace and would be missing value if i checked behind on the river (I have jsut moved form FL to NL). I didn't think the board was particuarly dangerous. Or is this just a classic case of me overplaying TPTK?
  • 1 reply
    • Alaton
      Joined: 21.02.2006 Posts: 1,498
      Standard line for situations like this is to play a check behind on the turn and then call a riverbet.
      The board is very dry and I don't see many worse hands there who are capable of calling all the way.
      By checking you show weakness and very often you will collect some bluffmoney from your opponents.
      The 9 is a little scarecard, because in some cases he has it and then again, the check-behind saves a little money for you as you get to the showdown cheap.

      So as you said, it was a bit overplayed for TPTK, but I think betting or checking behind also depends on the quality of your opponents, but as you didn't play on Partypoker I don't know the quality of the opponents at this level there.
      (Against bad players(Calling Stations) a Turnbet seems reasonable.)