[NL2-NL10] NL10 SH, 88, set on the turn

    • Yuris125
      Yuris125
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      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      $0.05/$0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)

      Known players:
      MP3:
      $9.85
      CO:
      $10.87
      BU:
      $6.53
      SB:
      $10.61
      BB(Hero):
      $11.06

      Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF/Hands)
      BU - 64/24/2.2/177, ATS 44%

      Preflop: Hero is BB with 8, 8.
      2 folds, BU raises to $0.2, SB folds, Hero calls $0.10.

      Flop: ($0.45) 5, 9, 4 (2 players)
      Hero checks, BU checks.

      Turn: ($0.45) 8 (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.30, BU raises to $0.6, Hero raises to $1.8, BU calls $1.20.

      River: ($4.05) K (2 players)
      Hero bets $2.10, BU calls $2.10.

      Final Pot: $8.25.

      Hi,
      Should I 3bet him preflop, or is just calling ok?
      Any mistakes postflop?

      Thanks!
  • 6 replies
    • Fongie
      Fongie
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      Joined: 02.12.2006 Posts: 4,978
      Definately 3bet him preflop. Reason? Because
      His open raising range is really loose and bad here preflop -> his hands are bad on the flop mostly -> he doesn't hit a hand he wants to stack off with often -> we have bad set implieds

      We 3bet him there to narrow his range down to better hands that he will call a 3bet with and that he can stack off with when we hit our set, we also gain initiative which enables us to take away the pot without hitting sometimes aswell (or even seeing a flop).

      Postflop I'd valuebet bigger on the river, make it $3 or so. Don't have to be scared of the flush because his line is, like, never, a flushdraw (why would he minraise it on the turn).
    • Yuris125
      Yuris125
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      Joined: 16.03.2009 Posts: 319
      Thanks Fongie! Unfortuantely he had 99, so I ran into a set over set situation...
      How big should my pocket pair be to 3bet him? I probably shouldn't do it with deuces, right? :)
    • silent21
      silent21
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      Joined: 08.08.2008 Posts: 1,556
      you should do it with every pp. vs regulars you can sometimes balance your play and call with them but the majority of time 3bet
    • Fongie
      Fongie
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      Do it with 22 too, just because we are kind of raising for set value for the reasons I explained


      We 3bet him there to narrow his range down to better hands that he will call a 3bet with and that he can stack off with when we hit our set
      Of course stronger PPs have more value because they can make overpairs aswell but that's not the point =)
    • Yuris125
      Yuris125
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      Joined: 16.03.2009 Posts: 319
      Looks like my 3bet range from the blinds is too tight :)
      Could you also give me an advice about non-paired hands? If the button has PFR 25 and ATS close to 50, which hands are good enough to 3bet vs his raise?
      Thanks!
    • silent21
      silent21
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      Joined: 08.08.2008 Posts: 1,556
      PFR 25 and ATS close to 50. this are reeealy high stats. it also depends on his foldto3bet factor but against such opponent personally i 3bet with suited connectors, suited broadways, ATo+, AXs

      ofcourse i am trying to play pretty lose :D