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[NL2-NL10] Nl200, Bb, Jj

    • burek2000
      burek2000
      Bronze
      Joined: 16.11.2007 Posts: 3,105
      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      SB:
      $40,75
      CO:
      $268,00
      BU:
      $40,00

      1/2 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BB with J:club: , J:heart:
      5 folds, CO raises to $7,00, BU raises to $40,00 (All-In), SB calls $39,00, Hero folds, CO calls $33,00.

      Flop: ($122,00) 7:spade: , 9:club: , 3:spade: (3 players)
      SB bets $0,75 (All-In), CO calls $0,75.

      Turn: ($123,50) K:diamond:
      River: ($123,50) 5:spade: (1 players)


      Final Pot: $123,50

      OK, I'm basically posting this hand just because I know the results. =)

      ...at the time of the hand CO and SB were unknown to me(only ~10-20 hands). So I wonder, is there any way to shove here? SB's cc seemed awfully strong, although now I know he's just a plain fish. :D
  • 11 replies
    • Tim64
      Tim64
      Black
      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 8,028
      nh, I reckon. I'm definitely restealing here against unkn.

      And, even if you simply re-raise and sb does cc your resteal you'd always be going broke with that flop. So, imo, it's just unlucky (assuming you lost the hand).

      Tim
    • burek2000
      burek2000
      Bronze
      Joined: 16.11.2007 Posts: 3,105
      Originally posted by Tim64
      nh, I reckon. I'm definitely restealing here against unkn.

      And, even if you simply re-raise and sb does cc your resteal you'd always be going broke with that flop. So, imo, it's just unlucky (assuming you lost the hand).

      Tim
      Uhm... I was on the BB and folded to steal, resteal and SB's cold call. =)
    • Aimboy
      Aimboy
      Bronze
      Joined: 03.06.2008 Posts: 11,940
      As there was a steal attempt, resteal and sb call, you are probably way behind. You had no CO and SB stats, BU looks quite tight, but still we don't know his 3bet%. I would fold Jacks here.
    • burek2000
      burek2000
      Bronze
      Joined: 16.11.2007 Posts: 3,105
      Originally posted by Aimboy
      As there was a steal attempt, resteal and sb call, you are probably way behind. You had no CO and SB stats, BU looks quite tight, but still we don't know his 3bet%. I would fold Jacks here.
      BU was a regular SSSer, I put him on AJ+/88+ resteal, but SB worried me the most...
    • Tim64
      Tim64
      Black
      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 8,028
      Uhm... I was on the BB and folded to steal, resteal and SB's cold call.


      That's a good point; didn't look properly :rolleyes:

      What was your stack size - would that make a difference?
    • burek2000
      burek2000
      Bronze
      Joined: 16.11.2007 Posts: 3,105
      ...forgot to post the hero's stack size, cause I wasn't VPIP player. :rolleyes:

      Stack size was 43$, but I don't think it makes much difference.
    • Gerv
      Gerv
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      Hi Burek,

      I would simply fold JJ here , you don't have enough statistics to determine a solid resteal range.

      BU can resteal based on CO's ATS, obviously he has more statistics than you.

      I found JJ/TT here a gambling hand so I muck

      - Gerv
    • mishuq
      mishuq
      Bronze
      Joined: 31.07.2008 Posts: 436
      even if you have some info on BU about restealing light (AT/99) it would still be a coin flip
      nh!!
    • Ishindar
      Ishindar
      Bronze
      Joined: 31.12.2008 Posts: 259
      nice complex spot. i would fold Jacks as they would rarely stand up against 2 opponents regardless of all the other reasons to fold :P
    • burek2000
      burek2000
      Bronze
      Joined: 16.11.2007 Posts: 3,105
      Thanks for backing up my decision, guys! :f_grin:

      ...I was like "WTF..." when I saw SD 66 vs AJ vs 88. :f_ugly:
    • mishuq
      mishuq
      Bronze
      Joined: 31.07.2008 Posts: 436
      always tough to see the donkaments you would've won big

      maybe this will help:

      $0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
      10 players
      Converted at weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      UTG+1 Hero ($26.55)
      UTG+2 Ding Rai ($100.40)
      MP1 daniel neg.. ($107.25)
      MP2 wisedm85 ($92.50)
      MP3 _s0me ($104.95)
      CO Soderlund_1 ($34.30)
      BTN DJ Marvin ($164.20)
      SB gusmaanov ($98.00)
      BB ZipMaestro ($169.60)

      Pre-flop: ($1.50, 10 players) Hero is UTG+1 A:spade: Q:heart:
      Hero folds, 1 fold, daniel neg.. calls $1, 3 folds, DJ Marvin raises to $4, 1 fold, gusmaanov calls $3.50, 1 fold, daniel neg.. calls $3

      Flop: 2:diamond: Q:spade: Q:club: ($13, 3 players)
      gusmaanov checks, daniel neg.. checks, DJ Marvin bets $10, gusmaanov raises to $35, daniel neg.. folds, DJ Marvin folds

      Final Pot: $58

      gusmaanov wins $56.35 ( won +$17.35 )
      daniel neg.. lost -$4
      DJ Marvin lost -$14

      :s_biggrin: