[NL20-NL50] NL10SH SD + FD vs 2

    • silent21
      silent21
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      Joined: 08.08.2008 Posts: 1,556
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      NL Holdem $0.10(BB) Replayer
      SB ($16.63)
      Hero ($18.04)
      UTG ($19.66)
      UTG+1 ($10.15)
      CO ($10)
      BTN ($11.88)

      Dealt to Hero 8:spade: 9:spade:

      fold, fold, CO raises to $0.35, fold, SB calls $0.30, Hero calls $0.25,

      FLOP ($1.05) J:diamond: 5:spade: 7:diamond:

      SB bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, CO raises to $2, SB calls $1.50, Hero calls $1.50,

      TURN ($7.05) J:diamond: 5:spade: 7:diamond: 4:spade:

      SB bets $2.60, Hero calls $2.60, CO raises to $7.65, SB calls $5.05, Hero calls $5.05,

      RIVER ($30) J:diamond: 5:spade: 7:diamond: 4:spade: 3:heart:

      check, check,

      can some1 help me calculating the odds for call on the turn vs 2, considering the implied odds vs sb as we are 170bb deep.

      thx

      sry wrong forum, please move the hand
  • 5 replies
    • Volrath89
      Volrath89
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      Joined: 23.07.2008 Posts: 2,171
      Hm as I see it you don't even need implied odds, your call on the turn is +EV.

      You have 13 clean outs (9 for the flush, and 6:heart: , 6:club: , T:club: , T:heart: for the straight) which is 2.5:1. And your pot odds are 6:1.

      The questionable play imo is calling the $2 dollars raise on the flop. You only had 6 outs for the straight (can't count the :diamond:) and the backdoor flushdraw which gives you about one more out. That's 6:1 odds and the pot odds after the raise were 4.7:1. Well with implied odds it could be ok but you had only invested 75 cents so far and you are playing passively in sandwich position... idk I think I'd have folded on the flop.
    • StraightGinn
      StraightGinn
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      Joined: 19.10.2008 Posts: 913
      As he is the last one calling on the flop and there's no risk somebody will raise it there again I'd call.

      On the turn and river it's no brainer.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      when sb lead on the flop I think raising or folding is better option than calling, because often enough co would re-raise and you can´t really call being oop.
      I´d likely shove turn, you have a lot of fold equity and seems liek SB is drawing and doubt that co would call yorus hove there too many times
    • Volrath89
      Volrath89
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      Joined: 23.07.2008 Posts: 2,171
      I´d likely shove turn, you have a lot of fold equity and seems liek SB is drawing and doubt that co would call yorus hove there too many times


      Does he?? I don't think he has enough fold equity, CO is already all-in and SB has $6.63 left and would get very good odds to call with any draw after Hero's shove.
    • BogdanDin7
      BogdanDin7
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      Joined: 29.04.2008 Posts: 1,114
      I would raise it on the flop , I don`t like CO having position on us so I try to get him out with a raise. If he comes over the top you have a easy fold there and if you are left with SB you will have a nice play with position and initiative.

      As played I would also shove turn right after SB bet. You will fold almost any pair / draw right there. I don`t think anything else but a set / two pair can call a shove there .