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KK on dangerous board

    • PokerSteve999
      Joined: 09.04.2009 Posts: 5
      Should I have folded here? With that many callers there is a good chance I'm way behind. 90 person, double stack, KO bounty tournament.

      No Limit Holdem Tournament
      $6 + $0.50 KO Sit & Go
      8 players
      Converted at

      UTG (2955)
      Hero (UTG+1) (6180)
      MP1 (3075)
      MP2 (5880)
      CO (2955)
      BTN (2985)
      SB (2970)
      BB (2970)

      Blinds: 15/30

      Pre-flop: (45, 8 players) Hero is UTG+1 K:club: K:diamond:
      1 fold, Hero raises to 90, MP1 calls 90, MP2 calls 90, CO calls 90, BTN calls 90, 2 folds

      Flop: 5:club: 4:diamond: 6:club: (495, 5 players)
      Hero bets 495, 1 fold, MP2 calls 495, 1 fold, BTN goes all-in 2,895, Hero folds, MP2 calls 2,400

      Turn: T:club: (6,780, 2 players)

      River: T:diamond: (6,780, 2 players)

      Final Pot: 6,780
      MP2 shows: 6:heart: A:diamond:
      BTN shows: 4:spade: 5:spade:
  • 7 replies
    • mafaz
      Joined: 07.12.2007 Posts: 222
      why u even ask? u see yourself that u were behind :) The only question you are asking this because the turn was ten and the river paired the board. But i dont know :) A hard but good fold i guess. Someone can easilly have a set or floped a straight or has a flushdraw whatever. Plenty hands you can loose to.
    • PokerSteve999
      Joined: 09.04.2009 Posts: 5
      I didn't even realise I would have won until I posted the hand. I'm asking because there are a lot of players that would shove with something like A6 or an over pair completely ignoring the texture of the board.
    • mafaz
      Joined: 07.12.2007 Posts: 222
      with 5 players seeing the flop i think it was a good decision. Theres noone who could answer this question correctly cause there is no perfect decision in this situation. Everyone can say whatever they want after they see the outcome of the hand in the end. Everyone is smart then :) and there is no right pattern how to play KK on such board vs 5 players.
    • leifti
      Joined: 23.06.2008 Posts: 2
      You're all so high and mighty when you can see the result, wish u had posted it without the end..
      I would call there any day any time, he could easily be squeezing the pot for the extreme folding equity he has from the both of you, he could easily do it with another over pair, flushdraw, par with flushdraw, etc - and sometimes he'll show up with nothing but big balls..
      I am quite certain you are ahead villains range here, even though this scenario it obviously turned out to be a correct fold - but, making the wrong decision and winning means your losing ! - dno who said that but google it, so true.
    • drawback
      Joined: 30.01.2009 Posts: 155
      You should think about bet-sizing at the early stage of the tournament. Especially if it's a KO T.
    • miskokvo
      Joined: 28.03.2008 Posts: 1,502
      5 players preflop? ... your KK has like 15% max to win a hand....

      at low limits/early stage you can raise with KK,AA more than 3BB ... like 5/6BB i dont see a problem in that ...
    • Chopsticks43
      Joined: 26.10.2007 Posts: 162
      another reason for a call is that you have them all covered so would still have enough chips and it is a KO tourney?