[NL2-NL10] NL4 TPTK facing overbet

    • klonoa
      Joined: 14.01.2007 Posts: 124
      Party Poker
      No Limit Holdem Ring game
      Blinds: $0.02/$0.04
      8 players

      Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is CO with A K
      UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 raises to $0.25, MP2 folds, Hero calls, Button calls, 3 folds.

      Flop: K 4 2 ($0.85, 3 players)
      MP1 bets $2, Hero calls, Button folds.

      Turn: Q ($4.85, 2 players)
      MP1 is all-in $4.81, Hero ??

      oh btw,
      villian's stack: abt $7
      hero's stack: abt $10

      Question: Would u call the flop? As played, fold turn?
  • 3 replies
    • vladnz
      Joined: 17.01.2007 Posts: 1,355
      call it at those limits players usually go all in with pair of 99 or 10
    • howard182
      Joined: 30.10.2006 Posts: 416
      Disagree, obviously. Unless villain is a known maniac (if he does this kind of thing more than very infrequently, he is), the flop is an easy fold as TPTK is almost never good there.

      If however he is a maniac, you probably are good and just letting him dump his stack will likely get you the most value.
    • Alaton
      Joined: 21.02.2006 Posts: 1,471
      Well without a read this is certainly not a nice situation, but TPTK on these Limits is really quite often a good hand even against such an Overbet.
      He could very well do this with KQ or even worse Kings.

      You are not doing a big mistake by folding here, obviously, as the pot is really small and not worth fighting big about it.
      But you could though lose a lot value against a known bad player.

      Like howard pointed out, against unknown you can fold this (reduces Variance a lot also!!) and against a know weak player you can Call the flop and call the turn.
      Raising the flop might get him to fold a weaker Hand, which we don't really like.
      A draw is not that likely for our opponent, so protecting is not really necessary.