[NL20-NL50] nl25 sh folded set on flop

    • nafar84
      nafar84
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      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)

      Known players:
      SB:
      $23.33
      BB:
      $26.50
      MP3(Hero):
      $46.38
      CO:
      $50.44
      BU:
      $37.78

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 2, 2.
      Hero raises to $0.85, CO folds, BU calls $0.85, SB calls $0.75, BB calls $0.60.

      Flop: ($3.40) 2, 5, 8 (4 players)
      SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $2.25, BU calls $2.25, SB calls $2.25, BB raises to $11, Hero folds, BU folds, SB folds, BB gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $10.15.

      BU: 23/15/3.0/41
      SB: 16/13/7.0/159
      BB: 35/23/1.1/67

      I folded this set (after using my whole time bank) because BB with low AF check/raises 3 players who have shown interest in the pot. Also, BU and/or SB could easily have a set since they call on such a dry flop.

      Is my set of deuces the best hand enough of the time to make a shove profitable?
  • 9 replies
    • silent21
      silent21
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      hard to fold but i am folding also.nh wp!
    • nttflox
      nttflox
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      I would never fold this for 100BB. Plus, it's more likely he holds some overpair type of hand. Why would he want to scare off the rest of the players in the pot on such a dry board with a set?
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      with his loose pfr I´m sure that bb could hold there sometimes 85, that´s why I would shove for value
    • nafar84
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      Originally posted by nttflox
      I would never fold this for 100BB. Plus, it's more likely he holds some overpair type of hand. Why would he want to scare off the rest of the players in the pot on such a dry board with a set?
      Well I'm deep with BU, and I had to consider running into BU's set for 150BB. Perhaps I could just call (or minraise) and see what BU and SB do?
    • nttflox
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      Originally posted by nafar84
      Originally posted by nttflox
      I would never fold this for 100BB. Plus, it's more likely he holds some overpair type of hand. Why would he want to scare off the rest of the players in the pot on such a dry board with a set?
      Well I'm deep with BU, and I had to consider running into BU's set for 150BB. Perhaps I could just call (or minraise) and see what BU and SB do?
      Personally I wouldn't worry so much about BU's hand. If he has hit a higher set it would be a cooler anyway. I doubt you wouldn't play this for stacks if BB didn't raise. Regarding the call or minraise question, even if you just call and BU calls after you with his maybe slowplayed higher set, the pot would get to big to fold anymore I guess.
    • silent21
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      "Personally I wouldn't worry so much about BU's hand. If he has hit a higher set it would be a cooler anyway."

      why to risk 150bb and just to say myself "no problme it is a cooler" when i can fold my 23bb. bottom set on a dry board vs 3 not so aggressive players who showed that they want to play.. ?? no point i wouldnt play it also
    • HannesNL
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      Hmm definetely makes sence what youre saying, but it could also be just a flopsqueeze. I make one once a while just for FE... There could be many combo hands that you beat, and only 55/88 beats you, shove.
    • nttflox
      nttflox
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      Originally posted by silent21
      "Personally I wouldn't worry so much about BU's hand. If he has hit a higher set it would be a cooler anyway."

      why to risk 150bb and just to say myself "no problme it is a cooler" when i can fold my 23bb. bottom set on a dry board vs 3 not so aggressive players who showed that they want to play.. ?? no point i wouldnt play it also
      If you don't want to play deepstack against a guy that just calls your c-bet then fold is your best option, I agree.
    • silent21
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      btw i would be worried for SB: 16/13/7.0/159. Standard TAG, who calls in multiway pot only with PP hoping for set. He called on the dry board... why ?? guess he is trapping someone.