[NL20-NL50] 77 CO - FH folds

    • TheBrood
      TheBrood
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      Joined: 17.07.2008 Posts: 4,383
      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      BB:
      $19.40
      Hero:
      $20.00
      BU:
      $54.27

      0.1/0.2 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is CO with 7:heart: , 7:club:
      5 folds, Hero raises to $0.80, BU calls $0.80, SB folds, BB calls $0.60.

      Flop: ($2.50) A:diamond: , 5:spade: , A:club: (3 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $1.60, BU calls $1.60, BB folds.

      Turn: ($5.70) A:spade: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BU bets $5.70, Hero folds.

      Final Pot: $11.40
  • 7 replies
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      I´d likely take c/c line on the turn, although you can also bet/fold turn for value Just he doesn´t really have there too many times better hand than yours.
    • TheBrood
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      Originally posted by Kaitz20
      1- I´d likely take c/c line on the turn, 2- although you can also bet/fold turn for value Just 3- he doesn´t really have there too many times better hand than yours.

      1- Too many hands beat me imo, he looks passive and he bet pot size
      2- isnt it WAWB? and usually behind when he calls flop imo
      3- better or worse?
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Originally posted by TheBrood
      Originally posted by Kaitz20
      1- I´d likely take c/c line on the turn, 2- although you can also bet/fold turn for value Just 3- he doesn´t really have there too many times better hand than yours.

      1- Too many hands beat me imo, he looks passive and he bet pot size
      2- isnt it WAWB? and usually behind when he calls flop imo
      3- better or worse?
      1- his vpip is 50 in 22 hands and he hasn´t raised once- that means her could hold there any high cards (because people usually don´t put you on trips if there is pair on the flop) or a lot weaker hands.
      2- might be, but that doesn´t mean, that you shouldn´t bet turn for value, since now he calls you down with any pair.
      3- don´t understand
    • TheBrood
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      Originally posted by Kaitz20
      Originally posted by TheBrood
      Originally posted by Kaitz20
      1- I´d likely take c/c line on the turn, 2- although you can also bet/fold turn for value Just 3- he doesn´t really have there too many times better hand than yours.

      1- Too many hands beat me imo, he looks passive and he bet pot size
      2- isnt it WAWB? and usually behind when he calls flop imo
      3- better or worse?
      1- his vpip is 50 in 22 hands and he hasn´t raised once- that means her could hold there any high cards (because people usually don´t put you on trips if there is pair on the flop) or a lot weaker hands.
      2- might be, but that doesn´t mean, that you shouldn´t bet turn for value, since now he calls you down with any pair.
      3- don´t understand
      - Its true he could have worse, but on the other hand apparently he doesnt see many SD, so what is he calling flop with?
      - It might be a float but can I afford to call his potsize turn bet and possible river bet?
      - If I lead turn, only better hands will call/raise imo
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Originally posted by TheBrood
      Originally posted by Kaitz20
      Originally posted by TheBrood
      Originally posted by Kaitz20
      1- I´d likely take c/c line on the turn, 2- although you can also bet/fold turn for value Just 3- he doesn´t really have there too many times better hand than yours.

      1- Too many hands beat me imo, he looks passive and he bet pot size
      2- isnt it WAWB? and usually behind when he calls flop imo
      3- better or worse?
      1- his vpip is 50 in 22 hands and he hasn´t raised once- that means her could hold there any high cards (because people usually don´t put you on trips if there is pair on the flop) or a lot weaker hands.
      2- might be, but that doesn´t mean, that you shouldn´t bet turn for value, since now he calls you down with any pair.
      3- don´t understand
      - Its true he could have worse, but on the other hand apparently he doesnt see many SD, so what is he calling flop with?

      As I said any pair or maybe high cards. He is likely fish and like to see showdown or bluff you out so many cases, that you can´t say he is only calling with better hands on the flop.
      - It might be a float but can I afford to call his potsize turn bet and possible river bet?
      calling turn is fine, I think folding river is better line. Since they tend to take stab once and then give up
      - If I lead turn, only better hands will call/raise imo
      here I disagree, he would likely continue with any pair. Fishes don´t fold full houses.
    • TheBrood
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      so basically ur saying:

      - I beat 22, 33, 44, 5x, 66
      - I lose to 55, 88, 99, TT, JJ, QQ, KK, Ax (he could slowplay monster)

      and still I should lead/build pot on turn?

      I think call turn might be possible, but he seems so passive!
      Looks like blockbet turn is better imo
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Originally posted by TheBrood
      so basically ur saying:

      - I beat 22, 33, 44, 5x, 66
      - I lose to 55, 88, 99, TT, JJ, QQ, KK, Ax (he could slowplay monster)

      and still I should lead/build pot on turn?

      I think call turn might be possible, but he seems so passive!
      Looks like blockbet turn is better imo
      can't really put players on pp-s when their vpip is 50 over 26 hands.
      I don´t say you should bet pot on the turn. 4$ is enough there imo.