[NL20-NL50] NL25SH QQ on BTN

    • gavinonymous
      gavinonymous
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      CO: $33.90
      Hero (BTN): $24.30
      SB: $24.75
      BB: $72.90 37/10/4.3/86 vp/pf/af/hands
      UTG: $7.50
      MP: $17.75

      Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with Q :heart: Q :diamond:
      3 folds, Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, BB calls $0.75

      Flop: ($2.10) 3 :diamond: 7 :heart: 8 :spade: (2 players)
      BB bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

      Turn: ($3.10) A :spade: (2 players)
      BB bets $1, Hero raises to $3, BB raises to $6.50, Hero folds
  • 6 replies
    • MaestroOfZerg
      MaestroOfZerg
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      Consider his small donkbet as a check, c-bet that flop to $2,5 and take it from there.
    • alejandrosh
      alejandrosh
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      Joined: 02.07.2008 Posts: 4,346
      any reason to not raise flop?

      as played if you didn't raise flop I guess calling is better since you can go cheaply to showdown if he keeps doing this small bets. also a raise scares a lot of hands you beat and gets called by better
    • gavinonymous
      gavinonymous
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      Yes, the donkbet spooked me. Usually a donkbet from this type of player means to me they hit something and aren't going to give it up cheaply. I didn't think he'd believe that I have something there in an obv steal opportunity... I guess it was some kind of pot control.
    • MaestroOfZerg
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      If he really did hit something on that flop then you're really happy. There are a lot more combinations of 8x 7x T9 65 and random overcards in his range then there are of 87 33 77 88, meaning if you raise his donkbet he is gonna give you more money with a lot of worse hands. You still have position, so you can still get away cheaply later on after seeing what he does if bad cards for you come on the turn and the river.

      Not sure you should bother worrying about what he thinks you might have in a steal situation, unless you have strong reasons to believe that he's a lot better than his stats would suggest.
    • alejandrosh
      alejandrosh
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      Board: 8s 7h 3d
      Dead:

      Equity Win Tie Loss Hand
      Player 1: 74,894 % 74,894 % 0,000 % 25,106 % QhQd
      Player 2: 25,106 % 25,106 % 0,000 % 74,894 % 22-TT, A8s-A7s, A3s, K8s-K7s, Q8s-Q7s, JTs, J8s-J7s, T6s+, 96s+, 85s+, 74s+, 65s, 54s, 43s, A8o-A7o, A3o, K8o-K7o, Q8o-Q7o, JTo, J8o-J7o, T7o+, 97o+, 87o, 65o, 54o, 43o

      of course we don't know his range (there should be a % random bluffs there imo) but hitting something doesn't mean your QQ can't raise for value
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      his flop bet is very weak, I´d raise flop for value.
      on the turn I´d just call and hope for cheap showdown