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[NL2-NL10] 24s NL200

    • PanDuzePE
      Joined: 12.12.2007 Posts: 5,467
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $2(BB) Full Tilt
      SB ($246)
      Hero ($40)
      UTG ($69.75)
      UTG+1 ($215)
      UTG+2 ($267)
      MP1 ($200)
      MP2 ($381)
      CO ($209)
      BTN ($239)

      Dealt to Hero 2:diamond: 4:diamond:

      UTG calls $2, fold, UTG+2 calls $2, fold, fold, check, BTN calls $2, SB calls $1, check,

      FLOP ($12) 2:spade: 5:diamond: 3:spade:

      check, check, UTG bets $13, UTG+2 folds, CO folds, BTN folds, SB folds, Hero raises to $38, UTG calls $25,

      TURN ($88) 2:spade: 5:diamond: 3:spade: A:club:

      RIVER ($88) 2:spade: 5:diamond: 3:spade: A:club: 8:heart:

      14K 10/8

      af 7/6/2

  • 7 replies
    • Nunki
      Joined: 25.10.2006 Posts: 865
      I'd have just c/folded the flop. When UTG leads into 5 active players I'd give him credit especially on a low flop following the PF-limping. Low boards can be fine to c/r bluff but not when you have little or no FE. Some players might also question why anyone would risk a free card in this spot if they were holding a decent made-hand. ie. you often get more credit for leading the flop here.

      IMO, c/f>>bet_flop>>>c/r
    • Aimboy
      Joined: 03.06.2008 Posts: 11,940
      What did he have? Set, overpair, flushdraw? Oesd+trips outs, I would prefer to check/call here, but as there was such a large overbet and his flop af is 7, push after his raise is quite good idea. Well played IMO.
    • TheBrood
      Joined: 17.07.2008 Posts: 4,383
      As already mentioned, UTG bets strong into 5 players which to me means he has 2pair/set/straight he wants to protect from the FD.
      Your outs are discounted due to the FD and you have no FE with such small stacks, so I most prob fold here with no implieds. oop not good either.
    • Padde
      Joined: 25.05.2006 Posts: 1,060
      come on, UTG is to 90% on KK+ here i think.
      10/8 smells like a trapper shortstack imo.

      So he has an overpair or maybe a set.
      so i would fold here.
    • PanDuzePE
      Joined: 12.12.2007 Posts: 5,467
      so ?

      if he had overpair we still have about 45% to win, and u will pass this?
    • wuusaa
      Joined: 15.05.2007 Posts: 455
      you need 44,7% to push here i think.
      You have 42,4% equity against a range of QQ+ here.

      So i fold it.
      (btw: just give him one set in his range and it is an insta fold)

      it's just never +ev. why gamble without equity advantage?
    • IngolPoker
      Joined: 05.09.2006 Posts: 10,485
      you have no FEQ and are not a favourite

      just fold it, if he has AA for example, he even steals you some outs