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[NL2-NL10] aks nl200 .

    • PanDuzePE
      PanDuzePE
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      Joined: 12.12.2007 Posts: 5,467
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $2(BB) Full Tilt
      SB ($286)
      BB ($211)
      UTG ($40)
      UTG+1 ($200)
      Hero ($40)
      MP1 ($329)
      MP2 ($203)
      CO ($250)
      BTN ($241)

      Dealt to Hero A:heart: K:heart:

      fold, fold, Hero raises to $7, fold, fold, fold, fold, SB calls $6, fold,

      FLOP ($16) 5:heart: 5:diamond: 3:club:

      check, Hero bets $10, SB raises to $33, Hero calls $23,

      TURN ($82) 5:heart: 5:diamond: 3:club: 2:club:



      RIVER ($82) 5:heart: 5:diamond: 3:club: 2:club: 4:club:



      sb 217 hands

      25/9 wtsd 13 %

      cbet reraise = 24 %


      better muck here?
  • 10 replies
    • raun
      raun
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      Joined: 15.07.2007 Posts: 746
      this might be a stupid question considering how low your opponents wtsd is but should you even cbet such a low flop with overcards only?
    • PanDuzePE
      PanDuzePE
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      Joined: 12.12.2007 Posts: 5,467
      Only overcard?


      backdoor str8 and backdoor flush so about 9 outs here.


      and flop like that is perfect for cbeting imo
    • raun
      raun
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      Joined: 15.07.2007 Posts: 746
      okay these kinds of flops are exactly the ones i find so dificult.

      say if you only had overcards and no backdoor draws would you still cbet against this opponent ?

      i thought these kinds of flops were bad for a cbet because the villain knows that it is unlikely that you picked up a hand
    • nworb200
      nworb200
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      Joined: 19.08.2008 Posts: 49
      why not you have 9 reasonably clean outs he shouldn't have a five or pair of threes, should he?

      that leaves overpairs and gives you nine clean outs which easily give you +ev
    • Aimboy
      Aimboy
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      Joined: 03.06.2008 Posts: 11,940
      Originally posted by PanDuzePE
      Only overcard?


      backdoor str8 and backdoor flush so about 9 outs here.


      and flop like that is perfect for cbeting imo
      I don't like counting backdoor draws as my outs, so I would probably cbet/fold here according to his low wts, he could have and overpair.
    • DaPhunk
      DaPhunk
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      Joined: 01.03.2008 Posts: 2,805
      Originally posted by PanDuzePE
      Only overcard?


      backdoor str8 and backdoor flush so about 9 outs here.


      and flop like that is perfect for cbeting imo
      9 outs ?!?!?!? Why did you give one of the backdoor draws 2 outs?
    • PanDuzePE
      PanDuzePE
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      Joined: 12.12.2007 Posts: 5,467
      1 BACKDOOR = about 1,5 outs


      so 6 for overpair and 3 for backdoors : >
    • goldflair03
      goldflair03
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      Joined: 21.08.2008 Posts: 1,957
      a backdoor is just 1 out (4%) over two streets
      and i wouldn't call a "backdoor gutshot" a draw :rolleyes:
      so u've got 7 outs (about 25-27% hitequity) and a 25/9 fish
      =standart b/c flop :heart:
    • SheepMoose
      SheepMoose
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      Joined: 15.01.2009 Posts: 854
      Chances are he has overcards/pairs or maybe flopped a set. You said you had backdoor straight draws but any 6 or suited connecter like 67/56 would have you beat.

      Definitely bet/fold this flop.
    • IngolPoker
      IngolPoker
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      Joined: 05.09.2006 Posts: 10,484
      Originally posted by raun
      okay these kinds of flops are exactly the ones i find so dificult.

      say if you only had overcards and no backdoor draws would you still cbet against this opponent ?

      i thought these kinds of flops were bad for a cbet because the villain knows that it is unlikely that you picked up a hand
      if villain thinks this way i cbet/call with a big grin because my AK is nearly always good then ;)

      there is no solution to this hand, its all about what you think your opponent thinks

      if he cr bluffing? betcall

      otherwise i would normally check, if he is behind he mostly has just 3 outs