[NL2-NL10] nl200 QTo

    • PanDuzePE
      PanDuzePE
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      Joined: 12.12.2007 Posts: 5,467
      Hero wiGrabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $2(BB) Full Tilt
      SB ($220)
      Hero ($43)
      UTG ($104)
      UTG+1 ($200)
      UTG+2 ($73.95)
      MP1 ($234)
      MP2 ($200)
      CO ($165)
      BTN ($40)

      Dealt to Hero Q:diamond: T:heart:

      fold, fold, UTG+2 calls $2, fold, fold, CO calls $2, fold, SB calls $1, check,

      FLOP ($8) Q:heart: 7:spade: 2:heart:

      check, Hero bets $6, UTG+2 calls $6, CO folds, SB folds,

      TURN ($20) Q:heart: 7:spade: 2:heart: A:spade:

      Hero bets $14, UTG+2 raises to $28, Hero raises to $35, UTG+2 calls $7,

      RIVER ($90) Q:heart: 7:spade: 2:heart: A:spade: 6:club:




      29/15


      253 hands


      af flop 3 turn 5


      hard to fold after I decide to SB turn
  • 7 replies
    • DaPhunk
      DaPhunk
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      Joined: 01.03.2008 Posts: 2,805
      If his turn AF is five, I check/call for pot control as he will see the A as an excellent card to float me on and semibluff his draws. Against a less aggressive opponent i bet to get value out of FD's.

      Did he have FD or Pair of Aces? I guess if he's aggressive enough he may think we're 2nd barreling any holding with this A on turn and can push his floating range for FEQ. So the question is.... What did he have?
    • IngolPoker
      IngolPoker
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      Joined: 05.09.2006 Posts: 10,467
      drunk again? :P

      how can you betcall on the turn? do you think he is bluffraising here?

      i think i just cf, our hand isnt worth anything any more
    • PanDuzePE
      PanDuzePE
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      Joined: 12.12.2007 Posts: 5,467
      lol ingol,


      daphunk opinions are more constructive then yours, sorry.


      DaPhunk yes, he got FD.
    • IngolPoker
      IngolPoker
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      Joined: 05.09.2006 Posts: 10,467
      well what were your thoughts?

      thats the only interesting thing about the hand, basically thats the only interesting thing about every hand

      why did you choose the line you chose?

      edit :what i am trying to do is make you write down your thoughts, so i might be able to spot the mistakes in your thinking

      If you just want a finished opinion from a hand judge, i am the wrong guy for you and if you want to, i will not post in your hand any more, you just have to tell me :)
    • PanDuzePE
      PanDuzePE
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      Joined: 12.12.2007 Posts: 5,467
      My thinking:

      "A card on turn is scary card for oponnent and thats why I decided to SB, maybe he will fold higher Q then my or fold FD for example. Then he reraised, so what can I do... I need to call, fold will be stupid I put in pot too many cash + he had high AF so maybe he play FD like that"


      OK ?
    • goldflair03
      goldflair03
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      Joined: 21.08.2008 Posts: 1,957
      he will never fold a better Q or an fd in this spot.
      the only reason for betting the turn is for value against fd's.
      the problem is that most of the fd's which calls the flop are nutfd's
      and u never got 25% EQ against his turnraisingrange.

      thats why:
      c/f turn c/c non- :heart: river>>b/f, c/f river >>>>>>>> b/c
    • IngolPoker
      IngolPoker
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      Joined: 05.09.2006 Posts: 10,467
      Originally posted by goldflair03
      he will never fold a better Q or an fd in this spot.
      the only reason for betting the turn is for value against fd's.
      the problem is that most of the fd's which calls the flop are nutfd's
      and u never got 25% EQ against his turnraisingrange.

      thats why:
      c/f turn c/c non- :heart: river>>b/f, c/f river >>>>>>>> b/c
      this ;)