I hate poker so much right now

    • RahXephon1
      RahXephon1
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.04.2009 Posts: 972
      Just lost 21 BI with SSS on NL 10. i don't feel I tilted, I actually think I played better at the end of the session, still I had the most amazing number of suckouts ever.


      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $2,70
      UTG2:
      $5,56
      BU:
      $5,00

      0,05/0,1 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is SB with J:spade: , J:diamond:
      UTG1 folds, UTG2 raises to $0,20, 4 folds, BU raises to $0,70, Hero raises to $2,70 (All-In), 2 folds, BU calls $2,00.

      Flop: ($5,70) 9:club: , 6:spade: , 2:spade:
      Turn: ($5,70) 3:diamond:
      River: ($5,70) K:club: (1 players)


      Final Pot: $5,70

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows a pair of jacks (Js Jd)
      BU shows a pair of kings (Kh As)

      BU wins with a pair of kings (Kh As)


      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      SB:
      $12,47
      Hero:
      $2,23

      0,05/0,1 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K:diamond: , K:spade:
      2 folds, Hero raises to $0,40, 4 folds, SB raises to $0,70, BB folds, Hero raises to $2,23 (All-In), SB calls $1,53.

      Flop: ($4,56) 6:heart: , Q:club: , 9:heart:
      Turn: ($4,56) 2:heart:
      River: ($4,56) 8:heart: (1 players)


      Final Pot: $4,56

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows a pair of kings (Kd Ks)
      SB shows a flush, queen high (Qd Qh)

      SB wins with a flush, queen high (Qd Qh)


      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $2,15
      MP3:
      $4,12

      0,05/0,1 No-Limit Hold'em (7 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BB with Q:club: , J:spade:
      2 folds, MP3 calls $0,10, 3 folds, Hero checks.

      Flop: ($0,25) 9:club: , 8:club: , K:diamond: (2 players)
      Hero bets $0,20, MP3 calls $0,20.

      Turn: ($0,65) T:spade: (2 players)
      Hero bets $0,60, MP3 raises to $1,50, Hero calls $0,90.

      River: ($3,65) 8:spade: (2 players)
      Hero bets $0,35 (All-In), MP3 calls $0,35.

      Final Pot: $4,35

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows a straight, king high (Qc Js)
      MP3 shows a full-house, eights full of tens (8h Th)

      MP3 wins with a full-house, eights full of tens (8h Th)


      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      CO:
      $21,91
      Hero:
      $1,95

      0,05/0,1 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BU with J:diamond: , J:heart:
      2 folds, CO calls $0,10, Hero raises to $0,50, 2 folds, CO calls $0,40.

      Flop: ($1,15) 5:club: , J:spade: , T:spade: (2 players)
      CO checks, Hero checks.

      Turn: ($1,15) A:heart: (2 players)
      CO checks, Hero bets $0,50, CO calls $0,50.

      River: ($2,15) 2:spade: (2 players)
      CO bets $2,15, Hero calls $0,95 (All-In), CO gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $4,05

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows three of a kind, jacks (Jd Jh)
      CO shows a flush, jack high (5s 3s)

      CO wins with a flush, jack high (5s 3s)


      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $1,90
      BU:
      $5,06

      0,05/0,1 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is SB with Q:diamond: , A:heart:
      6 folds, BU raises to $0,35, Hero raises to $1,90 (All-In), BB folds, BU calls $1,55.

      Flop: ($3,90) 6:diamond: , 4:club: , T:club:
      Turn: ($3,90) T:spade:
      River: ($3,90) 2:diamond: (1 players)


      Final Pot: $3,90

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows a pair of tens (Qd Ah)
      BU shows three of a kind, tens (Td Ad)

      BU wins with three of a kind, tens (Td Ad)


      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $1,85
      MP1:
      $9,85

      0,05/0,1 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is UTG2 with Q:diamond: , Q:spade:
      UTG1 folds, Hero raises to $0,40, MP1 raises to $1,20, 6 folds, Hero raises to $1,85 (All-In), MP1 calls $0,65.

      Flop: ($3,85) 2:heart: , 9:spade: , 9:club:
      Turn: ($3,85) Q:heart:
      River: ($3,85) K:diamond: (1 players)


      Final Pot: $3,85

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows a full-house, queens full of nines (Qd Qs)
      MP1 shows a full-house, kings full of nines (Ks Kc)

      MP1 wins with a full-house, kings full of nines (Ks Kc)


      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $1,85
      MP1:
      $12,63

      0,05/0,1 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is SB with T:diamond: , T:heart:
      UTG2 folds, MP1 raises to $0,35, 4 folds, Hero raises to $1,85 (All-In), BB folds, MP1 calls $1,50.

      Flop: ($3,80) Q:spade: , 9:diamond: , 5:spade:
      Turn: ($3,80) A:diamond:
      River: ($3,80) 4:diamond: (1 players)


      Final Pot: $3,80

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows a pair of tens (Td Th)
      MP1 shows a pair of aces (Tc As)

      MP1 wins with a pair of aces (Tc As)


      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      CO:
      $3,32
      Hero:
      $1,85

      0,05/0,1 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BU with T:heart: , A:club:
      4 folds, CO calls $0,10, Hero raises to $0,50, 2 folds, CO calls $0,40.

      Flop: ($1,15) A:diamond: , 6:club: , T:club: (2 players)
      CO bets $0,30, Hero raises to $1,35 (All-In), CO calls $1,05.

      Turn: ($3,85) 2:heart:
      River: ($3,85) J:spade: (1 players)


      Final Pot: $3,85

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows two pairs, aces and tens (Th Ac)
      CO shows a straight, ace high (Ks Qs)

      CO wins with a straight, ace high (Ks Qs)


      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $1,81
      BU:
      $1,85

      0,05/0,1 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q:heart: , Q:diamond:
      3 folds, Hero raises to $0,40, CO folds, BU raises to $0,70, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1,81 (All-In), BU calls $1,11.

      Flop: ($3,77) 9:club: , 8:diamond: , 6:diamond:
      Turn: ($3,77) 7:club:
      River: ($3,77) 4:diamond: (1 players)


      Final Pot: $3,77

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows a pair of queens (Qh Qd)
      BU shows three of a kind, nines (9s 9d)

      BU wins with three of a kind, nines (9s 9d)


      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $1,45
      BB:
      $16,04
      BU:
      $2,41

      0,05/0,1 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is SB with Q:diamond: , Q:spade:
      6 folds, BU raises to $0,40, Hero raises to $1,45 (All-In), BB calls $1,35, BU folds.

      Flop: ($3,30) K:spade: , 9:spade: , 5:spade:
      Turn: ($3,30) 5:diamond:
      River: ($3,30) 5:club: (1 players)


      Final Pot: $3,30

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows a full-house, fives full of queens (Qd Qs)
      BB shows a full-house, fives full of kings (Jh Kc)

      BB wins with a full-house, fives full of kings (Jh Kc)


      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $1,90
      MP3:
      $1,40
      BU:
      $20,47

      0,05/0,1 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is SB with Q:heart: , Q:club:
      3 folds, MP3 calls $0,10, CO folds, BU calls $0,10, Hero raises to $0,70, BB folds, MP3 raises to $1,30, BU folds, Hero raises to $1,90 (All-In), MP3 calls $0,10 (All-In), Hero gets uncalled bet back.

      Flop: ($3,00) 9:spade: , 4:club: , 3:diamond:
      Turn: ($3,00) K:diamond:
      River: ($3,00) K:club: (1 players)


      Final Pot: $3,00

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows two pairs, kings and queens (Qh Qc)
      MP3 shows three of a kind, kings (Ks Td)

      MP3 wins with three of a kind, kings (Ks Td)
  • 23 replies
    • RahXephon1
      RahXephon1
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.04.2009 Posts: 972
      I also never could win a flip I lost all AK against small pair hands, I lost all the time I had a PP and opponent had overcards. I lost with flushes against Full houses, with 2 pair against trips.
    • NightFrostaSS
      NightFrostaSS
      Bronze
      Joined: 25.10.2008 Posts: 5,255
      Well... It seems like poker hates you too. :D jk.
      Poker is a game of high variation, SSS especially.. You'll get used to it. ;)
    • erptech
      erptech
      Platinum
      Joined: 15.03.2008 Posts: 659
      yo dude , sorry to hear about your downer...
      but still, chill, its normal, happens to all of us, you need to learn to deal with such crap, just imagine that it lasts 2 months like mine once did....
    • raun
      raun
      Bronze
      Joined: 15.07.2007 Posts: 746
      yeah i know exactly how that feels.

      feeling you are doing everything right and still loosing.

      but be careful cause these situations often lead to real tilts.
    • TheBrood
      TheBrood
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.07.2008 Posts: 4,383
      Take a break and come back when you have forgotten about those losses
    • SheepMoose
      SheepMoose
      Bronze
      Joined: 15.01.2009 Posts: 854
      I can see some leaks in your play.

      Hand #4. You flopped top set on an extremely draw heavy board, c-bet for protection/value from draws instead of letting your opponent get there cheaply.

      Hand #3. QJ would be strong enough to issolate his limping range. Stick it in on the turn as well.

      I don't really get the hand where you went broke with pocket tens?
      I guess you could always try some table selection as well. Opponents this loose can really cause headaches sometimes.
    • RahXephon1
      RahXephon1
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.04.2009 Posts: 972
      Tnx for the support guys, just came home from a party and i already forgot about it, I know my game is far from perfect, especially the trips against flush was awful, but I just needed to vent a little.

      See you all on Monday when I'll hopefully become a gold member for the first time :P

      Me goes to bed
    • whateverdude
      whateverdude
      Bronze
      Joined: 01.02.2009 Posts: 232
      In the TT hand the MP raiser had 92vpip and 75pfr which even with 12 hands means his real pfr is higher than 10, and at 10pfr reraisng MP raise with TT is profitable.
    • rickydaprince
      rickydaprince
      Bronze
      Joined: 20.12.2008 Posts: 397
      Well the last couple of hands, your stack dips well below min stack (20bb) for SSS, so you just give the opponents better odds to call your shove. Other than that, unlucky.
    • tokyoaces
      tokyoaces
      Bronze
      Joined: 01.04.2009 Posts: 1,883
      Originally posted by rickydaprince
      your stack dips well below min stack (20bb) for SSS
      :f_confused: Minimum stack for SSS is 15BB. :s_confused:
    • whateverdude
      whateverdude
      Bronze
      Joined: 01.02.2009 Posts: 232
      It's more like 10, and actually the smaller your stack is, the more profitable spots you get, as long as you have valid(enough hands) stats on your opponents. That's why I personally rebuy only if my stack goes bellow 5BB, and at 5 I rebuy only for 5 more, to make it 10BB.
    • RahXephon1
      RahXephon1
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.04.2009 Posts: 972
      Yes I rebuy when I fall below 15 BB (altough in one had i had 14,5, probably didn't manage to rebuy in time). I think that actually SSS is even more profitable with a stack closer to 15 than to 20 BB. Is that right?
    • Dante63s
      Dante63s
      Bronze
      Joined: 16.01.2009 Posts: 5,523
      Originally posted by whateverdude
      It's more like 10, and actually the smaller your stack is, the more profitable spots you get, as long as you have valid(enough hands) stats on your opponents. That's why I personally rebuy only if my stack goes bellow 5BB, and at 5 I rebuy only for 5 more, to make it 10BB.
      :s_mad:
    • lennonac
      lennonac
      Global
      Joined: 02.05.2009 Posts: 1,421
      Originally posted by whateverdude
      It's more like 10, and actually the smaller your stack is, the more profitable spots you get, as long as you have valid(enough hands) stats on your opponents. That's why I personally rebuy only if my stack goes bellow 5BB, and at 5 I rebuy only for 5 more, to make it 10BB.
      What site lets you rebuy to less than 20BB???
      I have not found one
    • rickydaprince
      rickydaprince
      Bronze
      Joined: 20.12.2008 Posts: 397
      I don't see how having a 5bb stack is profitable since you're committed to almost any pot and will not win much back? Also, the min buy-in is usually 20bb (stars) and rebuying back to the initial 20bb is what I meant. Since your stack is often below it, you give others better than usual odds to call your shove, since they wouldn't have to invest much more after your 3bet.... and so higher chance of suckouts.
    • whateverdude
      whateverdude
      Bronze
      Joined: 01.02.2009 Posts: 232
      Well at FullTilt if you are felted you have to rebuy for 20 minimum, but as long as you have some chips left, you can rebuy for as little as you want.
      With 5-10BB stack I just shove preflop, so FE of open raising is actually maximizied.
      I may be wrong here, and this could turn out to be a big leak in my strategy, but I am pretty sure shoving AQs (for an example) UTG with <10BB is profitable.
      Actually according to the S-C article I believe with <10BBs UTG(at a 9person table) A9s+ ATo+ 77+ is profitable.
    • CRI4BRA
      CRI4BRA
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.02.2008 Posts: 147
      to whateverdude

      hey dude,

      im sorry to tell you but you're completely wrong from every god damn point of view mathematically, conceptually.

      you missapply and change sss strategy , and then go and cry like a baby in another thread about how doomed you are by full tilt poker

      sss strategy is a good strategy as it is, and ppl who made it for us, and give it to us in exchange for the rake we provide to them ARE FAR BETTER than you can think of, and most important, BETTER THAN YOU.

      not only this but you post in their forum some nasty words, didnt recognize you're under tilt and basically you have no future in this game.

      i dont think u are or will be of any significant help to this community.

      sorry.... peace. :s_evil:
    • rickydaprince
      rickydaprince
      Bronze
      Joined: 20.12.2008 Posts: 397
      Originally posted by whateverdude
      Well at FullTilt if you are felted you have to rebuy for 20 minimum, but as long as you have some chips left, you can rebuy for as little as you want.
      With 5-10BB stack I just shove preflop, so FE of open raising is actually maximizied.
      I may be wrong here, and this could turn out to be a big leak in my strategy, but I am pretty sure shoving AQs (for an example) UTG with <10BB is profitable.
      Actually according to the S-C article I believe with <10BBs UTG(at a 9person table) A9s+ ATo+ 77+ is profitable.
      lol how does having a small stack maximise fold equity???? No wonder why you posted up that big whine thread.
    • whateverdude
      whateverdude
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      Joined: 01.02.2009 Posts: 232
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