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[NL2-NL10] Nl10 88 Fr Set

    • justkyle88
      justkyle88
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      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 7,613
      $0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
      9 players
      Converted at weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      UTG Akakitsune ($12.20)
      UTG+1 Hero ($21.35)
      MP1 ChouchPoker ($12.95)
      MP2 rilani ($39.65)
      MP3 tonghuapoker ($1.90)
      CO nephsx ($1.55)
      BTN kg21bball ($10.00)
      SB Jorika69 ($9.70)
      BB espartano911 ($7.75)

      Pre-flop: ($0.15, 9 players) Hero is UTG+1 8:diamond: 8:heart:
      1 fold, Hero raises to $0.40, 1 fold, rilani raises to $1.40, 5 folds, Hero calls $1

      Flop: T:club: A:heart: 8:club: ($2.95, 2 players)
      Hero bets $2.10, rilani calls $2.10

      Turn: 3:spade: ($7.15, 2 players)
      Hero bets $4.80, rilani goes all-in $36.15, Hero goes all-in $13.05

      River: 5:club: ($61.15, 2 players)

      Final Pot: $42.85
      Hero shows: 8:diamond: 8:heart:
      rilani shows: T:heart: T:diamond:

      rilani wins $59.05 ( won +$19.40 )
      Hero lost -$21.35
  • 6 replies
    • Dragar
      Dragar
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      Joined: 09.09.2008 Posts: 2,214
      You can fold pre-flop.

      As played nothing you can do, its just a cooler.
    • rickydaprince
      rickydaprince
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      Joined: 20.12.2008 Posts: 397
      Originally posted by Dragar
      You can fold pre-flop.

      As played nothing you can do, its just a cooler.
      I agree, why would you play 88 in a 3bet pot anyway buddy... you'd have to fold often if you miss. :P Folding preflop would probably be best.

      As played, like Dragar said, it happens and is just a cooler. NH, unlucky.
    • justkyle88
      justkyle88
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      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 7,613
      Originally posted by rickydaprince
      Originally posted by Dragar
      You can fold pre-flop.

      As played nothing you can do, its just a cooler.
      I agree, why would you play 88 in a 3bet pot anyway buddy... you'd have to fold often if you miss. :P Folding preflop would probably be best.

      As played, like Dragar said, it happens and is just a cooler. NH, unlucky.
      I call the 3-bet for set value, 20x raise rule.
    • maya1984
      maya1984
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      Joined: 18.12.2008 Posts: 1,741
      Calling the 3bet pf is fine if you think that you can stack him. (Using the call20 rule for example) Due take in mind that if he is a thinking player he isn't stacked off easily with tp,op hands and also it's always harder to extract value OOP. (which are good arguments to fold pf)
      As played:

      Flop: again, you can bet more, cause if he calls a 2.1$ bet with tp he will also call 2.4$. It might look not so important , only 0.3$ difference, but this 0.3$ helps you building the pot and extract more money on later streets.

      Turn: His range is wide here(can be overplaying worser hands like 2pair,A :club: x).I'm going broke on the turn too. (we got the third nuts,only 2 hands beat us)
      It's a cooler, you played well.
    • Dragar
      Dragar
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      Joined: 09.09.2008 Posts: 2,214
      The call 20 rule is flawed.

      Read an article from 2+2 about this a while ago. To sum it up we do not have the implied odds we need because we can only stack him in a perfect situation if we hit our set + we goto factor in the coolers like in this hand.

      I will find the article and post the link later on.
    • justkyle88
      justkyle88
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      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 7,613
      how do u suggest we get maximum value out of our PPs pf then? I look forward to reading this article.