[NL2-NL10] a8s nl200

    • PanDuzePE
      PanDuzePE
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      Joined: 12.12.2007 Posts: 5,467
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $2(BB) Full Tilt
      SB ($240)
      BB ($176)
      UTG ($45)
      UTG+1 ($127)
      UTG+2 ($115)
      MP1 ($287)
      MP2 ($34)
      CO ($40)
      Hero ($55)

      Dealt to Hero A:club: 8:club:

      UTG+1 calls $2, UTG+2 calls $2, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $2, Juicemakerking calls $1, check,

      FLOP ($10) 6:diamond: 7:spade: 9:club:

      check, check, UTG+1 bets $9, UTG+2 folds, Hero folds, Juicemakerking folds, UTG folds,

      UTG+1 wins $9.50



      17k 27/7

      af 2/3/2

      wtsd 22%


      too easy fold?
  • 10 replies
    • Tim64
      Tim64
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      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 7,401
      I fold this too. Your odds to call are lousy even if you give yourself 12 clean outs, you may already be behind to a 2 card straight by someone who might conceivably have T,8s etc. and most importantly remember that you didn't limp A8s to go broke on this type of board.
    • goldflair03
      goldflair03
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      Joined: 21.08.2008 Posts: 1,957
      i dont like that limp with A8s
      the playabillity is to bad in multiwaypotts (except the 10% where u hit u're fd)
    • lennonac
      lennonac
      Global
      Joined: 02.05.2009 Posts: 1,421
      This is the kind of hand you want in a multiway pot, because when you do hit your flush you implied odds are good.

      Still a fold on the flop though, nicely played
    • goldflair03
      goldflair03
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      Joined: 21.08.2008 Posts: 1,957
      Originally posted by lennonac
      when you do hit your flush you implied odds are good.
      i dont like this
      u dont hit u're flush that often and have the implieds that it would be profitabel

      i would like it with 67s or that stuff
      because u'll hit a lot more flops
      ca:
      10%SD
      10%FD
      5%2pair+trips
      so 25% of the flops have a great playabillity

      with A8s u'll miss the SD-value (u'll just hit the flop in 15%)
      and u'll get in close decisions with the onepairstuff
    • DaPhunk
      DaPhunk
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      Could you not ISOraise that hand preflop?
    • PanDuzePE
      PanDuzePE
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      They was little calling station, so isolating is not idea, i think.
    • DaPhunk
      DaPhunk
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      Originally posted by PanDuzePE
      They was little calling station, so isolating is not idea, i think.
      Ok, then I like your play. Call flop for implieds as they are calling stations. Maybe. lol. Unsure.
    • PanDuzePE
      PanDuzePE
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      So I Like You !

      xD
    • Gerv
      Gerv
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      Preflop is useful for a discussion but I really fold postflop since when you complete your straight, Villain will be scared because of the straight possibilities.

      with $55 stack, I think it is ok but I don't find overlimping optimal on midstakes

      If he puts you on 8x, well then your implieds are not that great

      - Gerv
    • ysessa
      ysessa
      Basic
      Joined: 11.07.2008 Posts: 1,331
      i dont like preflop because the only good draw you can flop is the fdraw and you get into trouble spots when you hit your ace... you can never draw to your 1 card oesd against action so i like mucking it preflop. postflop standard flop fold to much implieds needed