Hand Evaluation - 07. 06.

    • IronPumper
      IronPumper
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      Hi!
      I will start by posting a hand because I did not find a thread.
      I hope that this is ok^^

      No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      SB ($97.50)
      BB ($100)
      UTG ($120.15)
      MP ($101.50)
      CO ($139.20)
      Hero (Button) ($108.60)

      Preflop: Hero is Button with J, K
      3 folds, Hero bets $3, 1 fold, BB calls $2

      Flop: ($6.50) 9, J, J (2 players)
      BB bets $3, Hero calls $3

      Turn: ($12.50) 8 (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $8, BB raises $31, Hero ?



      Villain: 45/0 - 11 hands - random fish

      On the flop I am only calling, becuse from my experience I see here many bluffs in Villain`s range - such paired boards are often attacked from fishes by making a donk with Air, GSs, Draws...

      I think , I mix it up here by play strong for Value on the flop by Raising the donk and by only calling vs. Villain`s expected many Bluffs in his range on the flop.
      What you think to flopplay?

      Turn: Here I go for value and I am betting.
      Villain is C/raising me very big - problem: GS with T7 and OESD (QT) are completet here.
      2nd Problem: For m experience such fishes are not donking paired boards with trips so often (JT and other worse Trips).
      What you do and why?
  • 19 replies
    • IronPumper
      IronPumper
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      No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      SB ($101.80)
      BB ($101.10)
      UTG ($97.90)
      MP ($102.70)
      Hero (Button) ($100)

      Preflop: Hero is Button with Q, A
      UTG calls $1, MP bets $3, Hero raises $11.50, 3 folds, MP calls $8.50

      Flop: ($25.50) 5, 9, K (2 players)
      MP checks, Hero bets $14.50, MP calls $14.50

      Turn: ($54.50) 2 (2 players)
      MP checks, [color=#CC3333]Hero bets $30


      Villain: 25/16/2/25 - 596 hands

      Call 3bet: 58%
      Fold to CbetF: 59%
      Fold to 2ndBarell: 50% (2)

      Hero: 22/19/3,5/26
      3bet (overall): 8%


      I think that Villain would have C/raised many TPs or better + also FDs on the flop.
      So I could imagine that he has quite often a weaker Range on the turn concerning his flop-Callingrange (maybe marginal SD-Valuehands):
      Maybe weaker TPs (could be in regards to his high 3bet-Calling-Stat + weaker pockets like <=QQ.
      At least without a :diamond: , i think that these hands will fold vs. a 2nd Barell quite often.
      For the 2nd barell I need about 35,5% FEQ.


      Questions:

      1.) Good spot for a +ev 2ndBarell?
      2.) Betsizes ok?
    • Becks777
      Becks777
      Black
      Joined: 04.03.2006 Posts: 7,727
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
      Hero ($106)
      BB ($48.25)
      UTG ($116)
      CO ($104)
      BTN ($83.83)

      Dealt to Hero K:spade: Q:club:

      fold, fold, BTN calls $1, Hero raises to $5, BB calls $4, BTN calls $4

      FLOP ($15) 9:heart: Q:heart: 3:spade:

      Hero bets $11, BB calls $11, BTN calls $11

      TURN ($48) 9:heart: Q:heart: 3:spade: A:club:

      Hero checks, BB bets $6, BTN folds, Hero calls $6

      RIVER ($60) 9:heart: Q:heart: 3:spade: A:club: 8:diamond:

      Hero checks, BB bets $26.25 (AI), Hero calls $26.25


      BU: 39/6/1.1/37 270 h
      BB: unknown

      until the turn i gues its standard. Turn card isnt great and if i bet im commited. i can´t fold to teh smallish bet from BB and on the river the pot ist so big and he could bluff busted draws or shove worse made hands
    • kingdippy2008
      kingdippy2008
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      Joined: 30.08.2008 Posts: 2,107
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.25(BB) Poker Stars
      SB ($25.25) 19/0 - 20 hands
      BB ($27)
      UTG ($13.05)
      UTG+1 ($14.70)
      CO ($25.30)
      Hero ($25)

      Dealt to Hero Q:diamond: J:spade:

      UTG calls $0.25, UTG+1 calls $0.25, fold, Hero raises to $1.50, SB calls $1.40, BB calls $1.25, fold, UTG+1 calls $1.25

      FLOP ($6.25) T:heart: K:heart: 9:diamond:

      SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $4.50, SB calls $4.50, BB folds, UTG+1 folds

      TURN ($15.25) T:heart: K:heart: 9:diamond: 7:heart:

      SB bets $19.25 (AI), Hero folds

      SB wins $14.55

      Correct fold?
    • kingdippy2008
      kingdippy2008
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      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.10(BB) Poker Stars
      SB ($10)
      BB ($10.40)
      UTG ($20.45)
      CO ($21.65)
      Hero ($17)

      Dealt to Hero A:heart: A:club:

      fold, CO raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $1.20, fold, fold, CO calls $0.80

      FLOP ($2.55) 7:heart: T:club: 4:diamond:

      CO checks, Hero bets $1.30, CO calls $1.30

      TURN ($5.15) 7:heart: T:club: 4:diamond: 2:club:

      CO checks, Hero bets $3.40, CO calls $3.40

      RIVER ($11.95) 7:heart: T:club: 4:diamond: 2:club: Q:spade:

      CO checks, Hero checks

      possible value bet?
    • Becks777
      Becks777
      Black
      Joined: 04.03.2006 Posts: 7,727
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
      SB ($79.25)
      Hero ($112)
      UTG ($211)
      UTG+1 ($24.20)
      CO ($101)
      BTN ($98.50)

      Dealt to Hero J:diamond: A:heart:

      fold, fold, CO raises to $3, fold, fold, Hero calls $2,

      FLOP ($6.50) 4:spade: J:heart: 8:spade:

      check, CO bets $4, Hero raises to $14, CO calls $10,

      TURN ($34.50) 4:spade: J:heart: 8:spade: 5:diamond:

      Hero bets $21, CO raises to $71, Hero folds,

      CO wins $73.50


      Villain: 24/21/2.5/23/26/ats CO: 42%/fold to 3bet: 73/ 2.6k h
      Didn´t have any 3bet history and because of his high foldto3bet percentage i decide to defend passiv.
      On the flop i decide to c/r because i don´t repp much and he will call with draws and worse jacks. I bet the turn again for protection and value.
      Better c/c all streets?
    • Becks777
      Becks777
      Black
      Joined: 04.03.2006 Posts: 7,727
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
      Hero ($103)
      BB ($104)
      UTG ($138)
      CO ($170)
      BTN ($139)

      Dealt to Hero Q:spade: Q:diamond:

      fold, fold, BTN raises to $4, Hero raises to $14, BB calls $13, fold

      FLOP ($32) 8:diamond: 6:spade: T:diamond:

      Hero bets $16, BB calls $16

      TURN ($64) 8:diamond: 6:spade: T:diamond: J:diamond:

      Hero checks, BB checks

      RIVER ($64) 8:diamond: 6:spade: T:diamond: J:diamond: 3:diamond:

      Hero bets $24, BB folds


      Villain: 28/20/1.8/33/fold to 3bet: 0 (4) 150 h
      I mostly give him pp when he calls this 3bet. Maybe AQ or AK.
      His Flop call looks liek 99 JJ. Turn is not too good but not too bad either. Do u b/c?
      River i decided to blockbet/fold. Think c/c for bluff induce is better.
    • kingdippy2008
      kingdippy2008
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      Hey Guys,

      Just checked out the schedule and it appears that there is no coaching this week :D

      Tribun must have cancelled :)

      Regards,

      -Jack
    • Becks777
      Becks777
      Black
      Joined: 04.03.2006 Posts: 7,727
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
      SB ($100)
      Hero ($100)
      UTG ($95.50)
      CO ($48)
      BTN ($74.57)

      Dealt to Hero 4:diamond: 2:club:

      UTG calls $1, CO calls $1, fold, SB calls $0.50, Hero checks

      FLOP ($4) 4:heart: 3:heart: 4:club:

      SB bets $3, Hero raises to $10, UTG folds, CO folds, SB calls $7

      TURN ($24) 4:heart: 3:heart: 4:club: 9:club:

      SB checks, Hero bets $14, SB calls $14

      RIVER ($52) 4:heart: 3:heart: 4:club: 9:club: 5:spade:

      SB checks, Hero checks


      Villain: 17/14/4.9/22 4.2 k h

      Villain could donk an overpair, oc + fd, or a 4, so i raised for value. On the turn he took a long time to call. After he called i was pretty sure he had a 4. Do u turn ur hand into a bluff and try to get him off his trips on the River?
    • IronPumper
      IronPumper
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      No coaching today??
      Is not listed at "Home"
    • kingdippy2008
      kingdippy2008
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      Originally posted by kingdippy2008
      Hey Guys,

      Just checked out the schedule and it appears that there is no coaching this week :D

      Tribun must have cancelled :)

      Regards,

      -Jack
    • IronPumper
      IronPumper
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      ah ok, have not seen that - nothing to do^^
    • TheBrood
      TheBrood
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.07.2008 Posts: 4,383
      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      SB:
      $50.84
      Hero:
      $53.72
      CO:
      $66.43

      0.25/0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BB with K:spade: , Q:club:
      4 folds, CO calls $0.50, BU folds, SB calls $0.25, Hero raises to $3.50, CO calls $3.00, SB folds.

      Flop: ($7.50) Q:diamond: , 9:club: , 3:spade: (2 players)
      Hero bets $4.50, CO raises to $9.00, Hero calls $4.50.

      Turn: ($25.50) 4:spade: (2 players)
      Hero bets $12.75, CO raises to $25.50, Hero folds.

      Final Pot: $63.75
    • TheBrood
      TheBrood
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      Joined: 17.07.2008 Posts: 4,383
      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $58.74
      MP2:
      $76.54
      CO:
      $190.33
      BU:
      $44.31

      0.25/0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BB with A:diamond: , A:spade:
      3 folds, MP2 calls $0.50, MP3 folds, CO calls $0.50, BU calls $0.50, SB folds, Hero raises to $2.75, MP2 calls $2.25, 2 folds.

      Flop: ($6.75) T:diamond: , J:heart: , 5:diamond: (2 players)
      Hero bets $5.50, MP2 calls $5.50.

      Turn: ($17.75) 7:spade: (2 players)
      Hero bets $13.50, MP2 calls $13.50.

      River: ($44.75) Q:club: (2 players)
      Hero bets $19.00, MP2 raises to $54.79 (All-In), Hero raises to $36.99 (All-In).

      Final Pot: $136.53
    • TheBrood
      TheBrood
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.07.2008 Posts: 4,383
      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $51.00
      MP2:
      $52.28
      MP3:
      $50.00
      CO:
      $14.75

      0.25/0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BB with A:club: , J:club:
      2 folds, MP2 raises to $2.00, MP3 calls $2.00, CO calls $2.00, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.50.

      Flop: ($8.25) 6:heart: , 3:club: , 6:club: (4 players)
      Hero checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, CO bets $8.25, Hero calls $8.25, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $8.25.

      Turn: ($33.00) 5:club: (3 players)
      Hero checks, MP3 checks, CO checks.

      River: ($33.00) 7:diamond: (3 players)
      Hero bets $19.50, MP3 raises to $39.75 (All-In), CO raises to $4.50 (All-In), Hero calls $20.25.

      Final Pot: $117.00
    • Gerv
      Gerv
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      $0.1/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
      9 players
      Converted at weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      UTG ($15.11)
      UTG+1 ($10.00) Unknown
      MP1 ($6.03) 12/9, 2.3k hands
      MP2 ($9.65) 13/11, 72 hands
      MP3 ($16.79) 6.6/4, 4.3k hands
      CO ($25.25) 9.4/6.4 276 hands
      Hero (BTN) ($28.75)
      SB ($24.53)
      BB ($25.00)

      More stats on request!


      Pre-flop: ($0.35, 9 players) Hero is BTN 5:club: 5:heart:
      1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, MP1 calls $0.25, MP2 raises to $0.75, MP3 calls $0.75, CO calls $0.75, Hero calls $0.75, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls $0.50, MP1 calls $0.50

      Flop: 6:diamond: 5:diamond: J:club: ($4.85, 6 players)
      UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 bets $1.50, CO calls $1.50, Hero raises to $9, UTG+1 raises to $9.25, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $7.75, CO raises to $24.50, Hero ????


      Do I fold, shove or ''call'' here? oO
    • HannesNL
      HannesNL
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.11.2008 Posts: 4,590
      almc6465 plays: 44/28/5 WTS: 29 and lost $200 in 140 hands
      Fickett plays: 27/9/1 WTS: 30 and won $200 in 151 hands

      So both bad players but Fickett with any common pokersence i guess

      $1/$2 No Limit Holdem
      9 players
      Converted at weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      UTG Fickett ($505.65)
      UTG+1 hiosilverr ($200.00)
      MP1 Hero ($444.35)
      MP2 Skillie ($98.40)
      MP3 derek7 ($255.00)
      CO ubigmountain69 ($173.80)
      BTN cwarno1 ($200.00)
      SB LRidge ($253.00)
      BB almc6465 ($200.30)

      Pre-flop: ($3, 9 players) Hero is MP1 K:spade: A:spade:
      Fickett calls $2, 1 fold, Hero raises to $9, 5 folds, almc6465 calls $7, Fickett calls $7

      Flop: 5:diamond: 3:diamond: A:diamond: ($28, 3 players)
      almc6465 bets $28, Fickett calls $28, Hero raises to $88, almc6465 folds, Fickett calls $60

      Turn: 8:spade: ($232, 2 players)
      Fickett checks, Hero bets $140, Fickett folds

      Final Pot: $372

      Hero wins $369 ( won +$132 )
      almc6465 lost -$37
      Fickett lost -$97
    • HannesNL
      HannesNL
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.11.2008 Posts: 4,590
      Villain: 17/11/2 WTS: 24, 3bet 3%,

      $1/$2 No Limit Holdem
      8 players
      Converted at weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      UTG Hero ($267.70)
      UTG+1 bobby_789 ($275.65)
      MP1 lfb123 ($212.25)
      MP2 willywonker007 ($243.10)
      MP3 doze09 ($182.00)
      CO TOM E DIAPERS ($80.00)
      BTN eddymoosh ($200.00)
      BB smartstrand ($94.50)
      [TOM E DIAPERS posted $2]

      Pre-flop: ($4, 8 players) Hero is UTG 9:spade: 9:heart:
      Hero raises to $8, 3 folds, doze09 calls $8, 3 folds

      Flop: 8:spade: 7:spade: 6:heart: ($20, 2 players)
      Hero bets $14, doze09 calls $14

      Turn: K:spade: ($48, 2 players)
      Hero bets $32, doze09 raises to $64, Hero????
    • HannesNL
      HannesNL
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.11.2008 Posts: 4,590
      villain: 13/9/2 WTS: 23, F3b 50%.


      It looks so easy, but it was a really tough hand, please comment.


      $1/$2 No Limit Holdem
      9 players
      Converted at weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      UTG redhawkflyer ($225.90)
      UTG+1 iladelph954 ($351.45)
      MP1 aslobo ($200.00)
      MP2 sol1ft ($238.95)
      MP3 LegacyRik ($460.55)
      CO BLAcK 2 WHiTE ($56.55)
      BTN coyote97 ($133.15)
      SB Hero ($255.75)
      BB ACHILLES157 ($253.00)

      Pre-flop: ($3, 9 players) Hero is SB A:diamond: A:club:
      3 folds, sol1ft raises to $7, 3 folds, Hero raises to $22, 1 fold, sol1ft calls $15

      Flop: Q:club: 7:diamond: T:heart: ($46, 2 players)
      Hero bets $35, sol1ft calls $35

      Turn: Q:spade: ($116, 2 players)
      Hero checks, sol1ft bets $38, Hero calls $38

      River: 5:diamond: ($192, 2 players)
      Hero checks, sol1ft bets $48, Hero calls $48
    • HannesNL
      HannesNL
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.11.2008 Posts: 4,590
      Villain is a very good player, agression FQ% flop 24%, turn 36%, river 36%


      $1/$2 No Limit Holdem
      9 players
      Converted at weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      UTG fdpirigyi ($153.60)
      UTG+1 derek7 ($448.95)
      MP1 BLAcK 2 WHiTE ($34.00)
      MP2 DrDruxx ($36.00)
      MP3 NathBlack ($106.45)
      CO amle99 ($162.15)
      BTN SmellyCat123 ($171.95)
      SB Hero ($200.00)
      BB doze09 ($579.55)

      Pre-flop: ($3, 9 players) Hero is SB T:heart: A:diamond:
      7 folds, Hero raises to $6, doze09 calls $4

      Flop: 4:diamond: A:spade: 3:spade: ($12, 2 players)
      Hero bets $8, doze09 calls $8

      Turn: 9:club: ($28, 2 players)
      Hero bets $20, doze09 raises to $62, Hero calls $42

      River: K:heart: ($152, 2 players)
      Hero checks, doze09 bets $152, Hero folds

      Final Pot: $304

      doze09 wins $301 ( won +$73 )
      Hero lost -$76