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[NL2-NL10] and again nl50 #3 (6 hands)

    • Blinzler
      Blinzler
      Bronze
      Joined: 04.03.2005 Posts: 7,456
      PartyPoker $50 NL Hold'em [color:#0000FF](5 handed)[/color] HandRecorder

      Stacks & Stats
      BU ($50.30)
      Hero ($51.95)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with 5:heart: , A:diamond:
      [color:#666666]1 folds[/color], CO calls $0.50, BU calls $0.50, SB calls $0.25, Hero checks.

      Flop: ($2.00) K:spade: , 5:diamond: , 5:club: [color:#0000FF](4 players)[/color]
      SB checks, [color:#FF0000]Hero bets $1[/color], CO folds, BU calls $1, SB folds.

      Turn: ($4.00) T:club: [color:#0000FF](2 players)[/color]
      [color:#FF0000]Hero bets $2[/color], BU calls $2.

      River: ($8.00) 3:club: [color:#0000FF](2 players)[/color]
      [color:#FF0000]Hero bets $4[/color], [color:#FF0000]BU raises to $13[/color], Hero calls $9.

      Final Pot: $34.00.

      riverplay, is the call there allright? higher bets on the earlier rounds?



      2)
      PartyPoker $50 NL Hold'em [color:#0000FF](6 handed)[/color] HandRecorder

      Stacks & Stats
      SB ($75.86)
      UTG ($50)
      Hero ($47.35)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with T:spade: , A:heart:
      UTG (poster) checks, [color:#666666]3 folds[/color], SB calls $0.25, Hero checks.

      Flop: ($1.00) 6:spade: , Q:club: , Q:diamond: [color:#0000FF](3 players)[/color]
      SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks.

      Turn: ($1.00) A:club: [color:#0000FF](3 players)[/color]
      SB checks, [color:#FF0000]Hero bets $0.80[/color], [color:#FF0000]UTG raises to $1.60[/color], SB calls $1.60, Hero calls $0.80.

      River: ($5.80) 5:club: [color:#0000FF](3 players)[/color]
      [color:#FF0000]SB bets $5[/color], Hero folds, UTG calls $5.

      Final Pot: $15.80.

      calling the turn minraise is good imo, bc my kicker isnt too bad in this spot; i would have called a weak river bet from the UTG guy on a blank river, but have an easy fold against a SB bet on the 3 flush board


      3)
      PartyPoker $50 NL Hold'em [color:#0000FF](5 handed)[/color] HandRecorder

      Preflop: Hero is BB with Q:spade: , A:diamond:
      [color:#666666]2 folds[/color], [color:#FF0000]BU raises to $1[/color], [color:#666666]1 folds[/color], Hero calls $0.50.

      Flop: ($2.25) 5:club: , 5:diamond: , J:diamond: [color:#0000FF](2 players)[/color]
      Hero checks, BU checks.

      Turn: ($2.25) K:diamond: [color:#0000FF](2 players)[/color]
      Hero checks, [color:#FF0000]BU bets $0.50[/color], Hero calls $0.50.

      River: ($3.25) A:heart: [color:#0000FF](2 players)[/color]
      [color:#FF0000]Hero bets $1.50[/color], [color:#FF0000]BU raises to $4[/color], Hero calls $2.50.

      Final Pot: $11.25.

      not doing well with my weak valuebets on the river, they keep on getting raised? have to start doing this with monsters :)
      comments on all streets appreciated



      4)
      PartyPoker $50 NL Hold'em [color:#0000FF](6 handed)[/color] HandRecorder

      Stacks & Stats
      SB ($23)
      Hero ($63.25)

      Preflop: Hero is UTG with J:club: , A:spade:
      [color:#FF0000]Hero raises to $2[/color], [color:#666666]1 folds[/color], CO calls $2, [color:#666666]1 folds[/color], SB calls $1.75, [color:#666666]1 folds[/color].

      Flop: ($6.50) 6:spade: , J:spade: , 3:diamond: [color:#0000FF](3 players)[/color]
      [color:#FF0000]SB bets $6.50[/color], Hero calls $6.50, CO folds.

      Turn: ($19.50) K:spade: [color:#0000FF](2 players)[/color]
      [color:#FF0000]SB bets $14.50 (all-in)[/color], Hero folds.

      Final Pot: $34.00.

      cant call the turn, can i call the flop? maybe even push?


      5)
      PartyPoker $50 NL Hold'em [color:#0000FF](6 handed)[/color] HandRecorder

      Stacks & Stats
      BU ($25.98)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with A:spade: , J:heart:
      [color:#666666]3 folds[/color], BU calls $0.50, [color:#FF0000]Hero raises to $2.50[/color], [color:#666666]1 folds[/color], BU calls $2.

      Flop: ($5.50) 6:club: , 2:heart: , 5:club: [color:#0000FF](2 players)[/color]
      [color:#FF0000]Hero bets $3.50[/color], BU calls $3.50.

      Turn: ($12.50) A:club: [color:#0000FF](2 players)[/color]
      Hero checks, [color:#FF0000]BU bets $4.50[/color], Hero calls $4.50.

      River: ($21.50) 7:heart: [color:#0000FF](2 players)[/color]
      Hero checks, [color:#FF0000]BU bets $15.48 (all-in)[/color], Hero folds.

      Final Pot: $36.98.

      good river fold?


      6)
      PartyPoker $50 NL Hold'em [color:#0000FF](5 handed)[/color] HandRecorder

      Stacks & Stats
      BB ($47.35)
      Hero ($80.15)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with T:diamond: , T:heart:
      [color:#666666]3 folds[/color], [color:#FF0000]Hero raises to $2[/color], [color:#FF0000]BB raises to $5[/color], Hero calls $3.

      Flop: ($10.00) 2:diamond: , 3:club: , 7:club: [color:#0000FF](2 players)[/color]
      Hero checks, [color:#FF0000]BB bets $5[/color], Hero calls $5.

      Turn: ($20.00) 3:diamond: [color:#0000FF](2 players)[/color]
      Hero checks, [color:#FF0000]BB bets $10[/color], Hero calls $10.

      River: ($40.00) 8:heart: [color:#0000FF](2 players)[/color]
      Hero checks, [color:#FF0000]BB bets $27.35 (all-in)[/color], Hero folds.

      Final Pot: $67.35.

      4 bet pf, how do i proceed post flop?


      thanks for comments :)
  • 7 replies
    • Blinzler
      Blinzler
      Bronze
      Joined: 04.03.2005 Posts: 7,456
      *push it to the limit* :D
    • Anakha
      Anakha
      Bronze
      Joined: 23.05.2006 Posts: 92
      Hey Blinz, didn't know you were still (or again?) going at it in NL. :)

      I'm no expert but I think I saw a few things for consideration.

      1.) Half potsize is a nice bet on this flop but I think you should ramp it up on the turn, a suited King isn't unlikely here, 2/3-potsized bet would probably be better (half isn't good enough if he has a flushdraw considering his implied odds).
      The river is unpleasent with odds of almost 3-1, but you're better at this than me so my question back is: How often do you think your opponent will raise here with anything other than a flush or a fullhouse of Tens? Did you have any reads on his betting/calling patterns so far?

      2.) Well played as far as I can see

      3.) I think the flop here is a quite decent to steal his initiative by betting out around half-2/3 potsize. His check behind and his minor turnbet worries me a bit here. The river is a pretty classic situation of giving youself the correct odds to call, I'm a bit hesistent about the betting out but I can understand your reasoning.

      4.) Any reads on your opponent? That would be the most important thing for me here. Looks he's protecting a set to me here.

      5.) I think so

      6.) I think this is another good flop to take away his initiative or get more information by betting out, it's really a question here if he has overcards, a pocket pair (probably better than yours) or if he is on a blind defense (any reads again? :) ). Besides you have to protect against a flushdraw here so simply calling looks too weak to me.


      A bit limited advice I'm afraid but I hope it helps :) . (and it's fun to do ;) )
    • Blinzler
      Blinzler
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      Joined: 04.03.2005 Posts: 7,456
      1) what i am mainly worried about here is how to extract maximum value from a K (if he has a flushdraw on the turn and hits it, so be it and against a 5 i will get action no matter what)
      i think with the 1/2 ps bets i dont scare him off too much


      4) folding the flop looks awfully weak, but i mean, i dont think i can call even this turn and he will push almost always, so fold flop feels like a good choiche.


      about the flop hu donks i dont really know alot about those spots, probably something i have to get better used too.
      thanks for the comments and ideas :)
    • Sleyde
      Sleyde
      Black
      Joined: 15.01.2005 Posts: 17,714
      1) a little bit more on the turn. he wont fold a king here. river is fine.

      2) nh

      3) 3-bet preflop to win the pot right there. calling OOP with no initiative sucks.

      4) I'd raise the flop about 3*times his raise which forces him to go allin. against a very passive opponent your could directly fold the flop since you are also sandwiched.

      5) $4 on the flop, rest is fine.

      6) i like c/c flop. the pot stays small and you gain his contibet. i'd lead out the turn and fold to a raise. if he calls the turn, you should probably fold the river if he bets over 1/3 pot.
    • Blinzler
      Blinzler
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      Joined: 04.03.2005 Posts: 7,456
      general rule for BB play vs a button/co steal: reraise or fold with most hands (except PPs/ suited cons?) ? obviously there are exceptions etc but relatively often correct?

      4) what range do you put SB on that you want to go all in against him? flushdraw/set/KJ/QJ/weird two pair; i dont think we are in great shape against that range so i would rather fold. Do you generally see a different range here?
    • Sleyde
      Sleyde
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      Joined: 15.01.2005 Posts: 17,714
      first question: yes. I'd also fold suited cons if there is only you and the raiser. drawing hands are hard to play HU OOP without initiative.

      well, I put him on Flushdraw or JT, QJ, KJ etc. you are only behind against 33 or 66 as a reasonable hand. maybe j6, but thats rather unlikely. i think most opponents would play the flop differently with a set. they would check/miniraise or do some other weird play.
    • Blinzler
      Blinzler
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      Joined: 04.03.2005 Posts: 7,456
      ok, thanks a lot :)