Heads-up stats

    • Aimboy
      Aimboy
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      Hey guys, I had just started playing nl50 hu and I'm wondering which stats do I need to determine my opponent style? I'm usually playing fr games, where I'm using a lot of stats, but in HU most of them are useless.

      What can vp/pfr tell me in HU? How can I tell about them if he is loose or tight? Hope you can help me with this matter.

      Regards,
      Aimboy
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    • timukasr
      timukasr
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      Important stats are SB and BB VPIP and PFR, aggression factor of every street, WTSD, call cbet, fold to cbet, 3-bet!, 4-bet etc

      30/30 is quite tight
      80/60 is quite loose
    • Aimboy
      Aimboy
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      Thanks, that helps a lot!
    • fun101rockets
      fun101rockets
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      i see people raising 85-90% all the time
    • EdgarAronov
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      Originally posted by fun101rockets
      i see people raising 85-90% all the time
      raising 85-90% is a loose heads up player and usually a weak HU player.
    • NightFrostaSS
      NightFrostaSS
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      Originally posted by EdgarAronov
      Originally posted by fun101rockets
      i see people raising 85-90% all the time
      raising 85-90% is a loose heads up player and usually a weak HU player.
      What? Disagree completely.
    • EdgarAronov
      EdgarAronov
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      Originally posted by NightFrostaSS
      Originally posted by EdgarAronov
      Originally posted by fun101rockets
      i see people raising 85-90% all the time
      raising 85-90% is a loose heads up player and usually a weak HU player.
      What? Disagree completely.
      Why so? If the villain always raises you, you almost always get action with your JJ+ and AK and so on.
      If you are facing against a very loose agressive HU player, you are a very lucky guy.
      Ofc theres difference between LAG fish and LAG solid player, but usually they are fishes (if they joined your table).
      If you have second opinions, shoot it :f_grin:
    • NightFrostaSS
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      We are talking about ppl who raise 90% of the buttons, aren't we?
    • fun101rockets
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      yeah assuming bu is sb
    • NightFrostaSS
      NightFrostaSS
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      Then i just don't see how this is bad esp vs reg, obv you'll get some preflop action on big hands, but that's it.

      I'd gladly raise 100% of my buttons vs some1 who waits for a big hand to make a stand. It's normal adjustment vs someone who folds too much.

      There are some people who raise 100% as their default and are very successful, for example theASHMAN103 or luvtheWNBA both are great HSNL HU players and as far as i remember raises 100% of their buttons.
    • EdgarAronov
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      Originally posted by NightFrostaSS
      Then i just don't see how this is bad esp vs reg, obv you'll get some preflop action on big hands, but that's it.

      I'd gladly raise 100% of my buttons vs some1 who waits for a big hand to make a stand. It's normal adjustment vs someone who folds too much.

      There are some people who raise 100% as their default and are very successful, for example theASHMAN103 or luvtheWNBA both are great HSNL HU players and as far as i remember raises 100% of their buttons.
      yes but in most cases if you raise 100% of hands then your oppenent (if he already is not it) becomes a calling station and what will you do every time the flop drops? coz most of the times you won't hit it and he will not belive your cbets. you will lose a lot of $$. but in some cases actually it's pretty good if he does not belive you coz then you can hide your strong cards.
      against a tight reg 100% raising is ok

      but ok, it's heads up, where everithing depens of your opponent =)