SSS squeeze & equity question

    • PanDuzePE
      PanDuzePE
      Bronze
      Joined: 12.12.2007 Posts: 5,467
      Hello,
      I just want to make sure that I make correct decision vs 2 oponnents when I play squeeze.

      For example :
      1/2 NL
      UTG raises 6$, MP calls 6$, Hero BB AQs

      Hero = 40 $
      PFR utg range = 10 %


      MP cold call = 6%


      And now, when I play I count only equity vs 6% because I know that vs 10% im ahead.


      So:

      40 + 6 + 40 when MP calls = 86 to win / 40 = about 46% equity I need


      AQs vs 6 % range = 41.378% So I fold


      Correct or maybe I make terrible mistake ?


      Friends tells me that I play wrong because in he`s opinion we need in this case 31%.

      But I play like that because I see how to count equity in this movie :

      http://pl.pokerstrategy.com/video/3350

      (polish sound but is not needed to understand)


      In this hand I count from this method :

      http://www.yousendit.com/download/Y1RyRFFUb0JBNkdGa1E9PQ



      Sorry for maybe stupid question but I want to make sure


      Best Regards,
      P
  • 4 replies
    • whateverdude
      whateverdude
      Bronze
      Joined: 01.02.2009 Posts: 232
      You didn't include fold equity in your calculation. Also, MP calling 6% doesnt mean top 6%, because he 3bets X% and calls 6%, could be wrong here, cause I dont use any of the advanced stats(DB aint big enough yet)
    • Tim64
      Tim64
      Black
      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 7,667
      Your friend is right that:

      if you can win $86 by only investing $40, you only need ~31% equity.

      But remember, you only win $86 when UTG and MP both call, so you have to compare your hand against 6% and 10% together and in that case your equity goes down. You said:

      when I play I count only equity vs 6% because I know that vs 10% im ahead.


      That's not right. If you go all in with AQ vs AJ you are ahead but you don't have 100% equity because opponent can still get a J - so you still have to count opponent's equity even if you are ahead.

      Now, if you think UTG always folds then you only equilate against 6%, but then you only win $46 not $86. I.e. you can't have it both ways.

      If you only wine $46 then you need better equity - in this case 46.51% - which is the figure you mention.

      So, if you can win more you need less equity. But if you win less, you need more equity. Simple.

      edit: also, remember to include FE like whateverdude said.
    • Tim64
      Tim64
      Black
      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 7,667
      Your friend is right that:

      if you can win $86 by only investing $40, you only need ~31% equity.

      But remember, you only win $86 when UTG and MP both call, so you have to compare your hand against 6% and 10% together and in that case your equity goes down. You said:

      when I play I count only equity vs 6% because I know that vs 10% im ahead.


      That's not right. If you go all in with AQ vs AJ you are ahead but you don't have 100% equity because opponent can still get a J - so you still have to count opponent's equity even if you are ahead.

      Now, if you think UTG always folds then you only equilate against 6%, but then you only win $46 not $86. I.e. you can't have it both ways.

      If you only win $46 then you need better equity - in this case 46.51% - which is the figure you mention.

      So, if you can win more you need less equity. But if you win less, you need more equity. Simple.

      edit: also, remember to include FE like whateverdude said.[/quote]
    • Ishindar
      Ishindar
      Bronze
      Joined: 31.12.2008 Posts: 259
      i think once your ahead of their ranges your guaranteed to have the lions share of the equity.