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[NL20-NL50] bad laydown?

    • kevin2001
      kevin2001
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.02.2009 Posts: 137
      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      BU = ($19.58)
      SB = ($26.89)
      BB = ($33.24)
      MP2 = ($46.10)
      MP3 = ($13.37)
      CO(Hero) = ($27.87)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with Q, Q.
      MP2 folds, MP3 raises to $0.85, Hero raises to $2.90, BU calls $2.90, SB folds, BB calls $2.65, MP3 calls $2.05.

      Flop: ($11.7) T, 4, J (4 players)
      BB checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets $7.00, BU folds, BB raises to $30.34, MP3 folds, Hero folds, BB gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $18.7.

      flop had 2 spades, i had no spade. against unknown players. is this a bad laydown? thanks
  • 3 replies
    • caltabiano
      caltabiano
      Bronze
      Joined: 09.03.2007 Posts: 1,992
      This is a pretty tough spot. I wonder if he's doing that with TP. If he doesn't do it with TP, our equity sucks.

      We cbet into 3 opp and he comes over the top. He's gotta give us a lot of credit for cbetting into 3 opp. He's gotta expect us to have AJ minimum, so it wouldnt make sense to come over the top with AJ.

      The pot is already very big though, due to a bunch of cold callers. You have little left, so I think you gotta call this one, as he could have a bunch of draws or pair + draw. Our pot equity will be around 27%. And we have nearly that equity versus a very strong range of sets, 2P and pair + FD. Since this is the very top of his range, I think our equity is even bigger.
    • BogdanDin7
      BogdanDin7
      Bronze
      Joined: 29.04.2008 Posts: 1,114
      This is ugly spot but I think you have to call here. I think that a lot of NL25 players would do that with AJ KJ , QJ , Jx with fd maybe ? can`t see suits so don`t know about that. Of course you will face sometimes 44 TT TJ or even JJ but given the odds you get and the probability he has a hand like I said you get the equity you need.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      you should call, since he should be semibluffing there a wide range of hands and you get quite good odds.