This site uses cookies to improve your browsing experience. By continuing to browse the website, you accept such cookies. For more details and to change your settings, see our Cookie Policy and Privacy Policy. Close

[NL2-NL10] Nl50 88

    • elhh82
      elhh82
      Bronze
      Joined: 03.09.2008 Posts: 6,838
      $0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
      10 players
      Converted at weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      UTG ($6.93)
      UTG+1 ($28.35)
      UTG+2 ($50.00)
      MP1 ($15.60)
      MP2 ($61.04)
      MP3 ($46.50)
      CO ($49.25)
      Hero (BTN) ($8.50)
      SB ($32.79)
      BB ($57.05)

      Pre-flop: ($0.75, 10 players) Hero is BTN :8s: :8c:
      1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.50, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls $2, MP2 calls $2

      Flop: :3s: A: :9d: ($8.25, 3 players)
      UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks

      Turn: Q: ($8.25, 3 players)
      UTG+1 bets $3.75, MP2 folds, Hero folds

      Final Pot: $12
      Hero shows: :8s: :8c:

      UTG+1 wins $11.60 ( won +$5.35 )
      Hero lost -$2.50
      MP2 lost -$2.50

      I felt cheated after this hand. But vs 2 opponents what can i do besides fold?

      The turn bettor is pretty much unknown. But after 14 hands he only folded 1 preflop.
  • 7 replies
    • Tim64
      Tim64
      Black
      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 8,029
      As played, NH. No point betting on this flop.

      The only other possibility is to push preflop against the two limpers. This would be a good play against standard loose fish, I think. But, if you have reason to think one of the limpers is having a monster, it's safer to fold.

      So without reads, I shove against two limpers out of position, because with a normal raise you're pot committed if you get called and it sucks having to check fold this.

      So, I think it's either push pf or fold and wait for a better spot.

      Tim
    • dandycal
      dandycal
      Bronze
      Joined: 10.10.2008 Posts: 1,711
      I agree with Tim, push pre-flop. You would have to raise to 6BB, and with a stack of 17bb I just push to avoid having a difficult time post-flop.
    • Termi8r
      Termi8r
      Bronze
      Joined: 04.02.2008 Posts: 408
      I agree with Tim64 :D
    • DaPhunk
      DaPhunk
      Bronze
      Joined: 01.03.2008 Posts: 2,805
      Theres nothing you can do postflop with those Highcards out.

      About Preflop, I'm guessing you know you didn't raise 4BB + 1 per limper so I won't mention it. As the other guys said you are committed preflop so a shove is possible against two-limpers although I must admit I'm more careful about UTG limpers as they slowplay monsters a heck of a lot. (Their Vpip-Pfr Gap In EP can be useful for judging whether they do this though)
    • burek2000
      burek2000
      Bronze
      Joined: 16.11.2007 Posts: 3,105
      Hey elhh82,

      no other way to play this hand. You could raise 3$ pre, but that's it.

      On the flop you face 2 opponents and with A-high board your PP is worthless, so c/f all the way and wait for a better spot.

      Btw, hero is BTN, therefore IP, so there's absolutely no reason to push preflop with 2 limpers.

      Regards,
      burek2000
    • Gerv
      Gerv
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      do you play with Stats Elhh82 ?

      If not, then I prefer to shove it preflop even though sometimes we have to worried about UTG. 88/77 are good preflop, they are not so very good postflop since P(Overcards) is just more than 50%

      So preflop you had to raise to 4+2bb = 6bb = $3 and leaving 11bb behind. I would have shoved preflop since you know that postflop, you have to shove for 11bb into a pot of 12bb+ as soon as 1 villain calls.

      Best regards,
      Gerv
    • elhh82
      elhh82
      Bronze
      Joined: 03.09.2008 Posts: 6,838
      yes i have stats, but not enough on this particular player.

      I didn't bet $3 because i bet 3.5+1x on CO and 3+1x on BU all the time, just sticking to it.