[NL2-NL10] 99 on BU to CO loose raise

    • elhh82
      elhh82
      Bronze
      Joined: 03.09.2008 Posts: 6,838
      $0.15/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
      10 players
      Converted at weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      UTG ($17.40)
      UTG+1 ($11.91)
      UTG+2 ($24.75)
      MP1 ($9.75)
      MP2 ($4.35)
      MP3 ($7.65)
      CO ($9.08)
      Hero (BTN) ($3.95)
      SB ($26.80)
      BB ($20.50)

      Pre-flop: ($0.40, 10 players) Hero is BTN :9c: :9d:
      UTG calls $0.25, 5 folds, CO raises to $1.15, Hero raises to $3.95, 2 folds, UTG calls $3.70, CO calls $2.80

      Flop: :3c: :8c: :5h: ($12.25, 3 players)
      UTG bets $12.25, CO folds

      Turn: :4d: ($24.50, 2 players)

      River: :8h: ($24.50, 2 players)

      CO raiser has PFR of >20 at late position. I put him on Ace Rag / Broadways. A coinflop basically.

      UTG was a loos-ish limper. Didn't expect him to call, when he did i knew it was bad news.

      Should i have folded preflop because of the player behind me?
  • 4 replies
    • Tim64
      Tim64
      Black
      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 7,401
      Well, you have 55% equity against 20% range which is ok if your stats are accurate. So, after how many hands is this?

      I wouldn't knowingly go into a coin flip without a lot of dead money (more than just one limper) (different if it's 60:40 ;) ), so you really need to be sure you're ahead of opponent's range before making this move.

      So, I think if you are sufficiently ahead of the original raiser's range it's fine to go all in here with your stack size and the dead money there is, even if you have some players behind you - it's just bad luck if they wake up with a monster. But, if you don't have a decent sample size, stick to JJ+AK+ for reraises.
    • dandycal
      dandycal
      Bronze
      Joined: 10.10.2008 Posts: 1,711
      Originally posted by Tim64
      So, I think if you are sufficiently ahead of the original raiser's range it's fine to go all in here with your stack size and the dead money there is, even if you have some players behind you - it's just bad luck if they wake up with a monster. But, if you don't have a decent sample size, stick to JJ+AK+ for reraises.
      But you'd need a good sample size or good reads on the opponent to deviate from SHC. Unless it is a steal situation, that is, if CO, BTN or SB are open raising against you. Then 99 is usually very decent for a 3bet.
    • DaPhunk
      DaPhunk
      Bronze
      Joined: 01.03.2008 Posts: 2,805
      Easy Push against 20% ORL imo.
    • Gerv
      Gerv
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      Folding is a mistake here since pushing gives you a better EV since you beat his range!

      if CO is isolating, his range is even wider! nice hand

      - Gerv