Odds counting

    • ciRith
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      Can you try counting the odds in these hands?

      First hand is our. Please don't include no backdoor out. Only the outs we have to improve to the turn.

      a) K :diamond: Q :diamond: vs 2 :spade: 2 :heart: Flop: J :diamond: T :diamond: 3 :club:

      b) 5 :spade: 4 :spade: vs. 2 :spade: 2 :heart: Flop: 7 :spade: 6 :spade: 6 :club:

      c) J :diamond: T :diamond: vs 5 :spade: 5 :heart: Flop: 9 :diamond: 8 :diamond: 8 :club:

      d) K :diamond: Q :diamond: vs 2 :spade: 2 :heart: Flop: J :diamond: T :diamond: T :club:
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    • Mugge88
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      a) 21 (9 flush + 6 straight + 6 OC)

      b) 23 (8 flush + 6 straight + 6 OC + 3 7's for two-pair higher kicker)

      c) 23 (8 flush + 6 straight + 6 OC + 3 9's for two-pair higher kicker)

      d) 23 (8 flush + 6 straight + 6 OC + 3 J's for two-pair higher kicker)

      I think thats about it :)
    • Cawo
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      Everything OK, but b) is one less, because he has 2 of spades.
      Interesting topic, I like it.
    • Mugge88
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      you sure? It must be me who can't see it:
      b)
      Spades: 3, 8-A = 8 spades
      Straights: All 8's and 3's except for the spades which has already been cointed: 6
      Cards to a higher two pair: All 5's and 4's left: 6
      Cards to a twopair on the board (gives us the better kicker): All 7's left = 3

      Total: 23 outs

      The only outs which isn't that good is the 7's, since the river card will very often lead to a split pot.
    • ciRith
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      Hmm but why aren't c) + d) 24?

      9 flush outs + 6 straight + 6 overacrds + 3 J / 9

      Can you count this again? In the book I read it it was all 23 outs but I counted it more than 5 times and always found 24.. can't find my mistake :/
    • Cawo
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      My mistake, you're right. Sorry.
    • Cawo
      Cawo
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      It makes him full house (one card of your flush cards) and doesn't make you straight flush so it is not your out.
    • ciRith
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      ahh wonderful thx :)