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[NL2-NL10] Double Gutshot

    • elhh82
      Joined: 03.09.2008 Posts: 6,838
      $0.15/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
      10 players
      Converted at

      UTG ($23.80)
      UTG+1 ($10.00)
      UTG+2 ($25.00)
      Hero (MP1) ($6.65)
      MP2 ($35.45)
      MP3 ($22.55)
      CO ($21.70)
      BTN ($44.11)
      SB ($3.95)
      BB ($7.85)

      Pre-flop: ($0.40, 10 players) Hero is MP1 Q: J:
      UTG calls $0.25, UTG+1 calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.25, MP2 calls $0.25, 1 fold, CO calls $0.25, BTN calls $0.25, 1 fold, BB checks

      Flop: :9c: :7d: T: ($1.90, 7 players)
      BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, MP2 bets $1.35, 2 folds, BB folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to $9.75, Hero folds, MP2 folds

      Final Pot: $13

      UTG+1 wins $12.80 ( won +$2.80 )
      Hero lost -$0.25
      MP2 lost -$1.60
      CO lost -$0.25
      BTN lost -$0.25
      BB lost -$0.25
      UTG lost -$0.25

      Have 8 clean outs for the straight draw. Maybe 1 or 1/2 an out for the Backdoor flush.

      I limped preflop hoping for exactly this kind of thing. But the check raise took me aback and i timed out. Was planning to call the MP2 bet.

      I did a quick equilator calculation on that flop. Put him on 77+, almost all the broadways, many suited connectors and one-offs suited connecters, AT and all the 2 pairs. Since he limped early, i guess he could have anything.

      Got just above 1/3 equity on that.
  • 3 replies
    • Tim64
      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 8,029
      I find the pre flop call a bit loose with only 2 limpers in front (though you get good odds in retrospect).

      On the flop, probably ok to call mp2's bet with 8 outs for the sd and additional overcard outs. However, I would be inclined to fold to the huge overpush from utg1.

      I think you need about 40% equity to call that push and I'm not sure you get it. I put utg1 on TT,77,99,AA,KK,QQ,JJ and maybe 78 and JQ, against which you get about 37.5%.

      So, nh imo after the flop.

      Incidentally, I think you have an oesd rather than a 'double gutshot', but someone should confirm.
    • DaPhunk
      Joined: 01.03.2008 Posts: 2,805
      I don't like the call in MP1. You can so easily get ISO'd and/or end up playing the hand OOP which makes it hard to extract value from.
    • burek2000
      Joined: 16.11.2007 Posts: 3,107
      Hey elhh82,

      preflop overlimp is way too loose. With SSS we only overlimp from LP and blinds otherwise someone can too easily raise behind you and you can't do anything but fold. Fold preflop.

      As played, with so many opponents and only OESD you should play passively and according to outs and odds, so fold was the right thing to do. For OESD you need 5:1 odds to call 1 street or 2:1 to go all-in on the flop.