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[NL2-NL10] JQs SB complete after limpers, FD on flop

    • elhh82
      Joined: 03.09.2008 Posts: 6,838
      $0.15/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
      10 players
      Converted at

      UTG ($45.45)
      UTG+1 ($6.67)
      UTG+2 ($5.00)
      MP1 ($24.45)
      MP2 ($20.80)
      MP3 ($5.00)
      CO ($24.60)
      BTN ($21.35)
      Hero (SB) ($5.10)
      BB ($24.43)
      [UTG+2 posted $0.25]

      Pre-flop: ($0.65, 10 players) Hero is SB J: Q:
      UTG calls $0.25, UTG+1 calls $0.25, UTG+2 checks, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.25, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.10, BB checks

      Flop: :3d: :7c: A: ($1.50, 6 players)
      Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets $1.05, 2 folds, MP2 calls $1.05, Hero ??????

      Should i have bet into this flop, despite being first to act and with so many players behind me?
  • 3 replies
    • mbml
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,795
      i think its alright to play check/call

      if you chose to bet out, you would have to fold to a raise. by playing c/c, you might 1) get a free card 2) give yourself the chance to evaluate the odds given to you. so just call the flop bet.
    • Tim64
      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 8,029
      Difficult imo.

      I don't think you have any fold equity if you shove over the bet/call. So it's call or fold for me.

      you get odds of 3.4:1 for one street which isn't quite enough. However, if you hit your flush you often get the necessary implied odds against 2 players especially with an A on the flop.

      So, I think it's ok to call on Flop and fold Turn if you don't hit but I don't think you make a mistake by folding on the flop either.
    • burek2000
      Joined: 16.11.2007 Posts: 3,107
      Hey elhh82,

      with FD alone and multiway pot it's best to stay passive and play c/c, you don't get the necessary FE and you will almost surely have to give up to a reraise.

      As played, I would call flop as you will probably get the rest of needed odds from implied odds, so calling should be +EV.