This is a bit unfair?

    • michaelqian
      michaelqian
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      Hi all

      I just noticed that we have to pay rake even though if the pot is tied.

      We both had AK, went all in on the flop with a K, tied, both paid about $0.15 rake.

      But no one actually won anything!!
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    • NightFrostaSS
      NightFrostaSS
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      So what? O_o
    • SheepMoose
      SheepMoose
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      Somebody call the po'.



      Seems the police don't like splitting pots too and losing money to rake. They'll sort it out!
    • michaelqian
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      Not that I care about $0.15.

      But the concept is unfair I think, since that no one won any money, yet the poker room makes the same rake.
    • SheepMoose
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      Originally posted by michaelqian
      Not that I care about $0.15.

      But the concept is unfair I think, since that no one won any money, yet the poker room makes the same rake.
      It is completely fair. If it wasn't fair the pokersites would have numerous amounts of players on their backs about it. I'd rather lose rake to a split pot than the pot to a better hand.
    • elhh82
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      I'd rather lose rake to a split pot than the pot to a better hand.
      I'd rather lose to a better hand than to lose rake to a split pot. But i'd hate to lose pots to worse hand who just outdrew me. :f_cool:

      Anyhoo, the policy is No Flop No Drop, so the only time you don't pay the rake is if you can get your opponent to fold preflop.

      You are paying the house/dealer for dealing the cards out, not for the results of the hand.
    • Faye6891
      Faye6891
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      Originally posted by elhh82
      You are paying the house/dealer for dealing the cards out, not for the results of the hand.
      +1

      Nothing unfair about it. You're just paying for a service that's being provided to you.
    • kaffeeteufel
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      Therefore I always push AI in $2 pots that are obviously going to be split pots and type in the chat
      "You know, when you're calling you're effectively losing because of the rake"
    • alejandrosh
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      in my local casino they take rake without seeing a flop. That's unfair.
    • shortfuse
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      Originally posted by kaffeeteufel
      Therefore I always push AI in $2 pots that are obviously going to be split pots and type in the chat
      "You know, when you're calling you're effectively losing because of the rake"
      yes but they would be be losing LESS had they NOT called

      D'OH

      in most situations
    • Berzerger
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      Originally posted by michaelqian
      I just noticed that we have to pay rake even though if the pot is tied.
      Rake (typically 5%) is paid by the winner of the pot. Since you both won, it makes perfect sense that you both pay the rake for the pot you received. The fact that you both had AK doesn't change anything. It's not "the same hand" by the way, any of you could have made a flush, won and paid the rake regardless.
    • andrewkd
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      where were you both in relation to the blinds?
      if you were both out of the blinds and playing 5/10 or above, you should have made something before you lost any to the rake........

      just my thoughts

      EDIT - Before you reply back saying it isn't the point, you still lost out to the rake even though it was split, i did realize that.