[NL2-NL10] NL50 A7s steal

    • Tim64
      Tim64
      Black
      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 7,401
      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $7.75
      BU:
      $10.21

      0.25/0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is CO with A:club: , 7:club:
      4 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, BU calls $1.50, 2 folds.

      Flop: ($3.75) A:heart: , J:club: , 3:heart: (2 players)
      Hero bets $2.85, BU raises to $5.70, Hero raises to $6.25 (All-In), BU calls $0.55.

      Turn: ($16.25) J:heart:
      River: ($16.25) K:diamond: (1 players)


      Final Pot: $16.25

      Ok to go broke here?
      TIA
  • 11 replies
    • mbml
      mbml
      Black
      Joined: 27.11.2008 Posts: 20,694
      he's a fish, could be doing that with FD or dominated aces, NH
    • goldflair03
      goldflair03
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.08.2008 Posts: 1,957
      have to be a hard down
      insta-all-in and a sip of coffee ;)
    • wuusaa
      wuusaa
      Bronze
      Joined: 15.05.2007 Posts: 455
      First of all, I fold it preflop because of the button.
      You play out of position with A7s against a loose station most of the time.

      as played/
      why do you make your cbet so high?
      Do you think he will fold an A,J or 3 This fish wont do it ^^
      -> 2.30$ cbet
      and you must go broke because he will raise a Jack, an Ace & a FD

      But I try to avoid these situations by folding pre
    • Tim64
      Tim64
      Black
      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 7,401
      why do you make your cbet so high?


      cbet is a little high, it's true. I suppose I was thinking that, with a fish, the bigger the mistake I can force him to make, the more money I make in the long run, no?

      e.g. if he has a fd and I make him pay 3/4 pot bet for his draw, I make more money than if i only charge him 1/2 pot. Is that not right?

      Thanks

      p.s. why must i fear being in a pot with a 50% vpip fish with a decent hand - he is calling with much worse - it would appear? Shouldn't I relish such spots?
    • goldflair03
      goldflair03
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.08.2008 Posts: 1,957
      Originally posted by wuusaa
      First of all, I fold it preflop because of the button.
      You play out of position with A7s against a loose station most of the time.

      i really dont agree with that :s_evil:
      smooth valuepoker postflop against a total callingstation

      u even could slansky push that
    • wuusaa
      wuusaa
      Bronze
      Joined: 15.05.2007 Posts: 455
      I respect you opinions. I am a NIT :D

      but I like a SC push here thats right.
    • Gerv
      Gerv
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      If BU is active on the table -> Sklansky Shove is better than just raising here and being OOP.

      What are the BBs//SBs stats?

      Well as played, you cannot lay it down after your cbet so nh
    • Tim64
      Tim64
      Black
      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 7,401
      SB and BB both tight players apparently:

      SB 9 vpip, 6 pfr 34 hands;
      BB 7 vpip, 5 pfr 207 hds
    • RahXephon1
      RahXephon1
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.04.2009 Posts: 972
      Originally posted by Tim64
      why do you make your cbet so high?


      cbet is a little high, it's true. I suppose I was thinking that, with a fish, the bigger the mistake I can force him to make, the more money I make in the long run, no?

      e.g. if he has a fd and I make him pay 3/4 pot bet for his draw, I make more money than if i only charge him 1/2 pot. Is that not right?

      Thanks

      p.s. why must i fear being in a pot with a 50% vpip fish with a decent hand - he is calling with much worse - it would appear? Shouldn't I relish such spots?
      It's not that you must fear being in the pot with him, he just meant that when you have a loose player on your left is ideal to play solid value poker, because your good hand will often get payed off, getting in at such marginal spots and out of position will only increase you variance.

      When you have nits on your left, your profit is not from value so much, but mostly from fold equity, which makes hands like that allright.

      Off course pushing the hand preflop could also be ok because of your stack size.
    • Tim64
      Tim64
      Black
      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 7,401
      I see. That's a helpful explanation, RahXephon1, thanks.

      Tim
    • wuusaa
      wuusaa
      Bronze
      Joined: 15.05.2007 Posts: 455
      RahXephon1, wow nice explanation :)
      I could not bring it in proper english sentences ^^