Shorthanded - 50 hands 0 VPIP

    • Octhellior
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      I just had a session where i was completely carddead for about 50 hands in a row. My vpip was 0 because I never even got some decent suited connectors with which i could raise/limp.

      Now, in that situation, how should you react?

      Start raising marginal hands preflop, or wait for the hands you usually raise with?

      Or should you just leave the table, because your insanely tight image might scare people when you actually do get a good hand?
  • 8 replies
    • SheepMoose
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      Explain "marginal" hands please.
    • Dragar
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      Uhm.... just play on?
      Whats your PFR usually?
    • NightFrostaSS
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      Well since you are playing at that table, you have a reason for it (fishes) and usually fish only cares about his own hand.
    • Octhellior
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      Originally posted by SheepMoose
      Explain "marginal" hands please.
      Like K9o, J7o type hands.

      Originally posted by Dragar
      Uhm.... just play on?
      Whats your PFR usually?
      PFR usually is around 12-ish, while VPIP is 12-14.

      Originally posted by NightFrostaSS
      Well since you are playing at that table, you have a reason for it (fishes) and usually fish only cares about his own hand.
      I guess that's true.
      But let's assume they're not total fish and do notice your tight image.

      What to do:
      a) Switch table
      b) Use your image to your advantage, widen your preflop raising range
      c) Don't worry about your image, keep waiting for a 'good' hand you can raise with.
      d) None of the above?
    • NightFrostaSS
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      No player that is aware of your image will give you action anyways if you play 14/12.

      As for your question, my answer would be

      a) Switch tables.

      If you will loosen up in order to use your image, you'll find yourself in lots of spots that you are not used to which willl lead to post flop spew.
      Just play more loose in general 14/12 seems like way too tight.
    • Smileyphil
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      I play 14/12 on full ring tables!

      And that is pretty tight except for unopened pots in late position.
    • yaxkukmian
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      Use the button! With your image nobody calls and even if somebody does, you can win with contibetting or flopping sth. 0/50 is unbeliveable for me. 6max is totaly different game than fullring - play looser (+smart=aggressive but be aware of your opponents) and it will pay off.
    • Ka0s
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      Yes I would definitely open raise some crap hands from the button too. You will probably not get action on the first hand(s) you start raising, so might as well -and even better- come in with junk. Just lay it down to aggression or flop-calls.