[NL2-NL10] NL 100 JJ vs rock

    • gao20005
      gao20005
      Bronze
      Joined: 29.10.2008 Posts: 3,134
      BU is such a rock vpip/pfr/af/hands 12/5/1.4/1.0k
      steal(total)9% co:13% bu:2% sb:10%
      raise 1st 6% and raise 1st(bu):2%

      SB :vpip/pfr/af/hands 50/25/1.0/18

      should I fold here ?
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      show hand

      $0.5/$1 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
      Known players:
      SB:
      $67.10
      BB(Hero):
      $20.00
      UTG2:
      $165.85
      MP1:
      $55.30
      MP2:
      $102.35
      MP3:
      $60.65
      CO:
      $48.20
      BU:
      $65.55

      Preflop: Hero is BB with J, J.
      5 folds, BU raises to $2.00, SB raises to $6.50, Hero raises to $19.00(All-In), BU raises to $63.55(All-In), SB folds.

      Flop: ($92.55) 2, A, 9 (3 players)

      Turn: ($92.55) 5 (3 players)

      River: ($92.55) 7 (3 players)

      Final Pot: $92.55.

      Results follow:

      Hero shows a pair of jacks(Js Jh).

      BU shows three of a kind, aces(As Ah).

      BU wins with three of a kind, aces(As Ah).
  • 6 replies
    • 0tt
      0tt
      Bronze
      Joined: 12.05.2009 Posts: 25
      Preflop fold in my book, too much action.
    • RahXephon1
      RahXephon1
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.04.2009 Posts: 972
      Nice hand in my oppinion, I don't belive that the button steal stats could be an accurate value. You are ahead against 9% and SB seems a fish.
    • DaPhunk
      DaPhunk
      Bronze
      Joined: 01.03.2008 Posts: 2,805
      Can you explain why you consider a fold?

      BU; Steals 9% ----> You are Way Ahead

      SB; 50/25 player (granted only 18 hands though) but anyway, can easily be restealing very loose. -----> You are Still Way Ahead.

      ----> You are Way Ahead, Why Fold?

      Oh wait, BU showed AA. Thats why its a Fold! Unlucky, it happens but your push was correct.
    • gao20005
      gao20005
      Bronze
      Joined: 29.10.2008 Posts: 3,134
      Originally posted by DaPhunk
      Can you explain why you consider a fold?

      BU; Steals 9% ----> You are Way Ahead

      SB; 50/25 player (granted only 18 hands though) but anyway, can easily be restealing very loose. -----> You are Still Way Ahead.

      ----> You are Way Ahead, Why Fold?

      Oh wait, BU showed AA. Thats why its a Fold! Unlucky, it happens but your push was correct.
      You are right :D
    • Gerv
      Gerv
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      It sucks because you lack SB stats so it is a little bit of juggling though I think you beat BU's range and can let him fold because you 4betShove

      Furthermore SB can be a total monkey restealing it with a range you beat as well.

      It also can be the other way: SB thinks BU is tight so tight 3bet range = beating YOUR JJ

      - Gerv
    • Tim64
      Tim64
      Black
      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 7,401
      It also can be the other way: SB thinks BU is tight so tight 3bet range = beating YOUR JJ


      Well I don't give credit for a 50% vpip player to have this thought process.

      NH.

      As DaPhunk says, the only reason you doubt your play is because of BU's showdown hand.

      Just note his tendency to minsteal monsters and move on.