What the hell is that?? Collusion?

    • JVV
      JVV
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      Joined: 20.05.2008 Posts: 197
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $200/$400 No-Limit Hold'em (4 handed)

      Known players:
      BU(Hero):
      $1900.00
      SB:
      $530.00
      BB:
      $5530.00
      CO:
      $5540.00


      Preflop: Hero is BU with 7, J.
      2 folds, SB calls $200.00, BB checks.

      Flop: ($800) 6, J, A (2 players)
      SB raises to $130.00(All-In), BB folds, SB gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $800.
  • 6 replies
    • shortfuse
      shortfuse
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      Joined: 02.07.2009 Posts: 450
      Originally posted by JVV
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $200/$400 No-Limit Hold'em (4 handed)

      Known players:
      BU(Hero):
      $1900.00
      SB:
      $530.00
      BB:
      $5530.00
      CO:
      $5540.00


      Preflop: Hero is BU with 7, J.
      2 folds, SB calls $200.00, BB checks.

      Flop: ($800) 6, J, A (2 players)
      SB raises to $130.00(All-In), BB folds, SB gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $800.
      whats the problem?

      he could easily have Ax
    • JVV
      JVV
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      Joined: 20.05.2008 Posts: 197
      He only has 130 left
    • 8979687
      8979687
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      Joined: 11.11.2008 Posts: 2,225
      If this is a Tournament where 3 people get paid, then this is the bubble.

      It is totally natural for the Big stack to want to keep the short stack alive as he can
      just shove pretty much any two cards and noone can call him and he collects the blinds for the next hand.
      And the hand after that as the short stack will be the BU then the CO befoe being blinded out.

      It is not collusion but strategy.
    • JVV
      JVV
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      Joined: 20.05.2008 Posts: 197
      I am awere of the strategy , but could you really fold 130?
    • 8979687
      8979687
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      Joined: 11.11.2008 Posts: 2,225
      Well its odd with the other biggy there, if he is a bad player and calls your in trouble.....
      but if I was shoving every hand and collecting the blinds over and over and it seemed like
      I was going to get away with it untill the shorty was gone, I could fold 1 if shorty had 1 chip left.
    • JVV
      JVV
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      Joined: 20.05.2008 Posts: 197
      You are probably right. Guess I overeacted a bit because I went out fourth.