[NL2-NL10] NL100 KJo steal vs min3bet

    • Tim64
      Tim64
      Black
      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 7,401
      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      BB:
      $67.75
      Hero:
      $21.50

      0.5/1 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is CO with K:spade: , J:heart:
      4 folds, Hero raises to $3.00, 2 folds, BB raises to $5.00, Hero raises to $8.00, BB calls $3.00.

      Flop: ($16.50) 5:spade: , J:diamond: , 9:diamond: (2 players)
      BB bets $14.00, Hero raises to $13.50 (All-In).

      Turn: ($44.00) T:club:
      River: ($44.00) 9:spade: (1 players)


      Final Pot: $44.00

      Any thoughts?
      Thanks,
      Tim
  • 6 replies
    • Gonzo394
      Gonzo394
      Bronze
      Joined: 29.12.2007 Posts: 2,181
      what did you have in mind with the minreraise preflop? I think it achieves nothing.

      i think the best way how to play this depends on your recent stealing actions at that table.

      if you stealed often, i would like to call here in position.

      otherwise i would lay it down since minraises oop very often are monsters.
      of course I would watch him, if he repeats this play.

      as played obviously you have to go broke on that flop.
    • DaPhunk
      DaPhunk
      Bronze
      Joined: 01.03.2008 Posts: 2,805
      what the?

      Please can you explain your preflop play. It just looks so odd and funky to me I'm not sure what to make of it.
    • Tim64
      Tim64
      Black
      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 7,401
      Hmm yes - should explain. Given villain's wts and w$sd I felt he was a bad player (don't recall if I had a specific read but quite possibly) and I didn't want to give up the initiative to what could easily have been - and was - a bluff resteal.

      I was planning to fold to a 4bet though, but didn't feel like going on the defensive.
    • Gonzo394
      Gonzo394
      Bronze
      Joined: 29.12.2007 Posts: 2,181
      Originally posted by Tim64
      Given villain's wts and w$sd I felt he was a bad player.
      Those are totally unreliable at 108 hands if he's not a total moron who sees a flop like every second hand and with 18/11 so far he doesn't seem to be that type.

      If anything the fact that he minraises you oop makes him look like a bad player.
    • goldflair03
      goldflair03
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.08.2008 Posts: 1,957
      preflop:
      with special reads that a minr. is his standart fischplay or that he likes to bluff minr. quit often than u can just easily call preflop for onepairvalue.

      with hands that have more sd-value u can also push preflop.

      ... but the min4bet is soooooooo bad
      because u create no fe an are commited on the flop anyways.

      so just push or call :P
    • burek2000
      burek2000
      Bronze
      Joined: 16.11.2007 Posts: 3,105
      Hey Tim64,

      without any particular read I would fold to resteal preflop, because 108 hands isn't big enough sample size to rely on. Your hand is very easily dominated. If you however think your hand is good or that villain is bluff raising often then I would shove preflop. Min 4-bet doesn't make much sense indeed.

      As played, you have to go broke on the flop.

      Regards,
      burek2000