[NL2-NL10] Nl50 Aq

    • RahXephon1
      RahXephon1
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.04.2009 Posts: 972
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.25/$0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)

      Known players:
      BB:
      $57.45
      UTG2:
      $60.85
      MP1:
      $19.35
      MP2:
      $9.25
      MP3:
      $46.05
      CO:
      $23.50
      BU(Hero):
      $9.25
      SB:
      $52.70


      Preflop: Hero is BU with A, Q.
      3 folds, MP3 calls $0.50, CO folds, Hero raises to $2.50, 2 folds, MP3 calls $2.00.

      Flop: ($5.75) 4, T, Q (3 players)
      MP3 checks, Hero bets $2.50, MP3 calls $2.50.

      Turn: ($10.75) 8 (3 players)
      MP3 checks, Hero bets $4.25(All-In), MP3 calls $4.25.

      River: ($19.25) 6 (3 players)


      Final Pot: $19.25.


      Villain is unknown. What I want to know is flop play. It's a close call between push and contibet, but I still feel I get better value from worse hands this way. The problem is that even with that bet I'm probably committed against flush draws against whom a push is probably better, but that should be a small part of his range.

      Edit: And I dont think he's folding the draws anyways.
  • 6 replies
    • caroline29632
      caroline29632
      Black
      Joined: 16.02.2009 Posts: 5,794
      I don't like a contibet that smal ( <half pot ) on this board. If you don't think he is folding his draws anyway, you should just bet more on the flop. Then it's +EV when he is calling with only a flush draw.
      This way, you almost gave him the odds to draw.
    • RahXephon1
      RahXephon1
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.04.2009 Posts: 972
      Yes I noticed the error, I was betting like the pot was just 4$.
    • Gonzo394
      Gonzo394
      Bronze
      Joined: 29.12.2007 Posts: 2,181
      Originally posted by caroline29632
      This way, you almost gave him the odds to draw.
      wrong. if you bet 1/2 ps here you infact give him the odds to draw if he really holds the (nut-)FD. because you as a a shortstack either give your hand up on he turn or you commit your stack which gives him implieds.
      that's also true if you bet 2/3. still it protects more and i agree with betting 2/3 ps as a cbet here.
    • caroline29632
      caroline29632
      Black
      Joined: 16.02.2009 Posts: 5,794
      Originally posted by Gonzo394
      Originally posted by caroline29632
      This way, you almost gave him the odds to draw.
      wrong. if you bet 1/2 ps here you infact give him the odds to draw if he really holds the (nut-)FD. because you as a a shortstack either give your hand up on he turn or you commit your stack which gives him implieds.
      that's also true if you bet 2/3. still it protects more and i agree with betting 2/3 ps as a cbet here.
      That's the raison I wrote in italic :P
    • DaPhunk
      DaPhunk
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      Joined: 01.03.2008 Posts: 2,805
      I shove flop.
    • burek2000
      burek2000
      Bronze
      Joined: 16.11.2007 Posts: 3,105
      Hey RahXephon1,

      on such a draw heavy board I simply push flop with stack 1$ more than the pot. You must as well worry about the odds and implied odds. If you decide for smaller c-bet you have to be able to fold if villain completes his draw, but with such a small stack that's not possible, because you're commited and if you are commited villain gets the odds to call your flop bet, so just push drawy boards.

      Regards,
      burek2000