[NL2-NL10] NL50 Q7s freeplay

    • Tim64
      Tim64
      Black
      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 7,401
      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $9.94
      BB:
      $62.28
      UTG2:
      $25.08
      MP1:
      $26.83
      MP3:
      $6.75
      CO:
      $82.99

      0.25/0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is SB with Q:diamond: , 7:diamond:
      2 folds, UTG2 calls $0.50, MP1 calls $0.50, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, BU folds, Hero calls $0.25, BB checks.

      Flop: ($3.00) 4:diamond: , 7:heart: , K:diamond: (6 players)
      Hero bets $3.00, BB folds, UTG2 calls $3.00, 2 folds, CO calls $3.00.

      Turn: ($12.00) 3:heart: (3 players)
      Hero checks, UTG2 bets $5.00, CO folds, Hero raises to $6.44 (All-In), UTG2 calls $1.44.

      River: ($24.88) 6:heart: (1 players)


      Final Pot: $24.88

      How, if at all, should I play this?
      Thanks
      edit: if I give villain a possible calling range on the flop of Kx, 7x, 4x or Ax :diamond: I have ~30% equity and I think I need only ~25% to push the Turn. Is that fair?
  • 8 replies
    • DaPhunk
      DaPhunk
      Bronze
      Joined: 01.03.2008 Posts: 2,805
      I play it passively for implieds in 3-way pot. We have a nice draw imo.
    • RahXephon1
      RahXephon1
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.04.2009 Posts: 972
      Passive play is the way, just check/call according to the odds.
    • dandycal
      dandycal
      Bronze
      Joined: 10.10.2008 Posts: 1,711
      Why play this passively? He's got pair+Fd, I think we can count with his 14 outs here and play it aggressively, trying to stick it in as soon as possible.

      I'd push turn, rather than ch/c so as to get a little FE, if any.
    • Gonzo394
      Gonzo394
      Bronze
      Joined: 29.12.2007 Posts: 2,181
      i don't like playing passively with pair+FD.

      when you c/c the turn, every draw (that you are ahead of!) check behind.
      when you push yourself you might even make some better hands to fold (like A7)

      so keep on firing.

      edit: damn, dandycal was faster ;)
    • Gerv
      Gerv
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      I check the last 2 players to act postflop to see if they are aggro and then decide whether to lead Flop or c/RAI as SB

      it is 6way so betting on SB is very strong (perceived)

      Since the pot is already 6bb and you have a 19bb stack, you mostly bet Pot and shove Turn then

      I think both possibilities are solid but playing c/c is burning money , you have to stick it in asap
      - Gerv
    • DaPhunk
      DaPhunk
      Bronze
      Joined: 01.03.2008 Posts: 2,805
      Originally posted by Gerv
      I think both possibilities are solid but playing c/c is burning money , you have to stick it in asap
      - Gerv
      LOL, preferring one line does not mean the other is burning money. Terrible use of that phrase sorry. You actually have to be doing something that is -EV not comparitvely -EV for that phrase to be applicable imo.
    • Tim64
      Tim64
      Black
      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 7,401
      Thanks DaPhunk - I've got your back, too, mate :)

      Well, I think Dandycal and Gonzo are right that pushing the Turn must be right (if I am going to call anyway) since I benefit from whatever FE may be available, but as you say that doesn't mean playing check/call on Turn is -EV.
    • DaPhunk
      DaPhunk
      Bronze
      Joined: 01.03.2008 Posts: 2,805
      Originally posted by Tim64
      Thanks DaPhunk - I've got your back, too, mate :)

      Well, I think Dandycal and Gonzo are right that pushing the Turn must be right (if I am going to call anyway) since I benefit from whatever FE may be available, but as you say that doesn't mean playing check/call on Turn is -EV.
      ta tim :D I also like the idea of betting out Flop, I think we have nice FE with that K lieing down there.