NL50 KQo

    • Fongie
      Fongie
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      Joined: 02.12.2006 Posts: 4,978
      Relevant notes:
      - cbet 4.5 into 8 and fold to raise on 728ss board in 3bet pot (he pfr)
      - cbet pot and fold to 3x raise on J64ss board

      The guy was a fish, but neither maniac nor loose passive just bad at mostly everything, but trying to play like a reg. I thought I had fold equity with the shove at the time, but it doesn't matter much.

      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
      Hero ($55.60)
      ($47.40)

      Dealt to Hero Q:spade: K:heart:

      raises to $1.50, Hero calls $1

      FLOP ($3) 4:diamond: T:club: J:diamond:

      Hero checks, bets $3, Hero raises to $9.50, raises to $18.75, Hero raises to $54.10 (AI), calls $27.15 (AI)

      TURN ($94.80) 4:diamond: T:club: J:diamond: 7:spade:

      RIVER ($94.80) 4:diamond: T:club: J:diamond: 7:spade: 4:heart:

      Do you think I often have my overcard outs here? Do you think I have enough equity to shove?
  • 7 replies
    • timukasr
      timukasr
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      Joined: 26.05.2007 Posts: 1,820
      I gave him quite tight range (of course it is assumption cause I don't know his PFR and stuff, but after his 3-bet that range looks quite plausible and after his 3-bet you have to start thinking wether you want to ship this hand or not.



      Board: Jd Tc 4d
      Dead:

      Equity Win Tie Loss Hand
      Player 1: 56,337% 56,337% 0,000% 43,663% KhQs
      Player 2: 43,663% 43,663% 0,000% 56,337% AA, AdJd, AdTd, Ad4d, JTs, 98s, J9o+, J4o, 98o, 63o-62o


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      I didn't give like AQs to him bcs you already have Q and it's unlikely that he has it as well (but I added AKs, cause there still is some chance he has it).

      Against this range you have pretty good equity so I would ship it.
    • swissmoumout
      swissmoumout
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      Originally posted by timukasr
      AA, AdJd, AdTd, Ad4d, JTs, 98s, J9o+, J4o, 98o, 63o-62o
      wtf @ parts in bold.

      Also, you include J4o but not J4s? JTs but not JTo? You may want to rework that range a tad.
    • timukasr
      timukasr
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      Roflmao, you are right and I suck at it. 63o-62o is added to put bluff into his range.
    • ihufa
      ihufa
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      Joined: 18.03.2008 Posts: 3,323
      Originally posted by swissmoumout
      Originally posted by timukasr
      AA, AdJd, AdTd, Ad4d, JTs, 98s, J9o+, J4o, 98o, 63o-62o
      wtf @ parts in bold.

      Also, you include J4o but not J4s? JTs but not JTo? You may want to rework that range a tad.
      that's the worst range i ever saw timu :D
    • excelgeo
      excelgeo
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      Joined: 17.10.2008 Posts: 1,107
      Originally posted by timukasr
      I gave him quite tight range (of course it is assumption cause I don't know his PFR and stuff, but after his 3-bet that range looks quite plausible and after his 3-bet you have to start thinking wether you want to ship this hand or not.



      Board: Jd Tc 4d
      Dead:

      Equity Win Tie Loss Hand
      Player 1: 56,337% 56,337% 0,000% 43,663% KhQs
      Player 2: 43,663% 43,663% 0,000% 56,337% AA, AdJd, AdTd, Ad4d, JTs, 98s, J9o+, J4o, 98o, 63o-62o


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      I didn't give like AQs to him bcs you already have Q and it's unlikely that he has it as well (but I added AKs, cause there still is some chance he has it).

      Against this range you have pretty good equity so I would ship it.
      ah the standard 63o raise

      on a serious note, his cbet is less than the pot. here he bets pot. i say you raise him only a little, maybe $8 and play b/f. this way, if he is not really strong, you get cheap turn and you freeze action on turn.

      tbh, i dont think he has anything less than TPTK, or AKd. Which at best gives you 13 outs (overcards and openended straight for TPTK that are not diamonds) at worse you are against jj and AdKd you have 8. therefore i dont think you can shove


      ps read my disclaimer
    • Fongie
      Fongie
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      Alright guys! I think it's a pretty standard broke-spot tbh. He had 9d8d btw, not that it matters much :) probably the best hand I could be up against (which still beat me :P )
    • excelgeo
      excelgeo
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      Joined: 17.10.2008 Posts: 1,107
      well he did have 19 outs and whats most important is that you could not have known that.