Overpair on the flop

    • Baxter82
      Baxter82
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      Joined: 26.11.2007 Posts: 22
      This is a hypothetical situation.
      FR, NL20, hero is sitting in MP holding JJ. Hero open raises to 4BB, unknown villain in CO calls, everybody else fold. Both of them have 100BB in their stacks.

      Flop is 3, 6, 10, rainbow. Hero raises to 2/3 of the pot, villain goes all-in.
      What would be the correct move? What if hero was holding bigger overpair?
  • 4 replies
    • Ka0s
      Ka0s
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      Joined: 05.11.2008 Posts: 722
      uhh fold if he is not a fruitcake.
    • Dragar
      Dragar
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      Joined: 09.09.2008 Posts: 2,214
      Insta-fold with JJ

      You can also fold bigger over pairs here.
    • gavinonymous
      gavinonymous
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      Joined: 18.12.2008 Posts: 1,146
      I had this hand yesterday. I'm thinking what I would do from villain's (TAG) point of view with Q:dQ. I've been playing like a LAG for a round or two with lots of good hands.

      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      SB:
      $36.20
      BB:
      $43.45
      MP2(Hero):
      $50.95
      MP3:
      $25.00
      CO:
      $25.00
      BU:
      $25.40


      Preflop: Hero is MP2 with ?, ?.
      Hero raises to $1.00, MP3 folds, CO raises to $3.50, 3 folds, Hero calls $2.50.

      Flop: ($7.35) 8, 9, 5 (2 players)
      Hero bets $5.25, CO raises to $10.50, Hero raises to $42.20(All-In), CO calls $11.00(All-In).

      I wouldn't want to fold QQ to the donkbet even though it looks strong. I wouldn't minraise, and calling means you might have to call down two more streets. Do you call down one more and fold to a river bet? In this hand CO took his time, disconnected and finally called.

      Turn: ($76.3) 6 (2 players)

      River: ($76.3) A (2 players)

      Results follow:

      Hero shows three of a kind, eights(8c 8s).
      CO shows a pair of queens(Qs Qd).

      Hero wins with three of a kind, eights(8c 8s).
    • Dragar
      Dragar
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      Joined: 09.09.2008 Posts: 2,214
      Originally posted by gavinonymous
      I had this hand yesterday. I'm thinking what I would do from villain's (TAG) point of view with Q:dQ. I've been playing like a LAG for a round or two with lots of good hands.

      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      SB:
      $36.20
      BB:
      $43.45
      MP2(Hero):
      $50.95
      MP3:
      $25.00
      CO:
      $25.00
      BU:
      $25.40


      Preflop: Hero is MP2 with ?, ?.
      Hero raises to $1.00, MP3 folds, CO raises to $3.50, 3 folds, Hero calls $2.50.

      Flop: ($7.35) 8, 9, 5 (2 players)
      Hero bets $5.25, CO raises to $10.50, Hero raises to $42.20(All-In), CO calls $11.00(All-In).

      I wouldn't want to fold QQ to the donkbet even though it looks strong. I wouldn't minraise, and calling means you might have to call down two more streets. Do you call down one more and fold to a river bet? In this hand CO took his time, disconnected and finally called.

      Turn: ($76.3) 6 (2 players)

      River: ($76.3) A (2 players)

      Results follow:

      Hero shows three of a kind, eights(8c 8s).
      CO shows a pair of queens(Qs Qd).

      Hero wins with three of a kind, eights(8c 8s).
      Very hard hand for villain, tough to get away from since you called 3-bet (which is btw -EV)... uhm.. I'd probably ship it too.