[NL20-NL50] NL25: KQs

    • johnbeattie85
      johnbeattie85
      Bronze
      Joined: 11.09.2008 Posts: 716
      Wasn't really sure what to do on the turn here. I thought there was a good change of MP3 shoving if I called, in which case I have to fold since I am pretty much crushed by MP3 and SB could also have a hand.

      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)

      Known players:
      MP2:
      $34.30
      MP3:
      $42.60
      CO:
      $5.50
      BU:
      $3.10
      SB:
      $14.85
      BB:
      $4.75
      UTG2:
      $12.50
      MP1(Hero):
      $36.30


      Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q, K.
      UTG2 folds, Hero raises to $1.00, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $1.00, 2 folds, SB calls $0.90, BB folds.

      Flop: ($3.25) 3, 5, 7 (3 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $2.00, MP3 raises to $6.00, SB calls $6.00, Hero calls $4.00.

      Turn: ($21.25) 9 (3 players)
      SB bets $7.85(All-In), Hero folds, MP3 calls $7.85.

      River: ($36.95) J (2 players)


      Final Pot: $36.95.
  • 3 replies
    • Gerv
      Gerv
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      You get direct odds for drawing to the FD

      If he doesn't have a set, you can count up to 4 outs extra which increases your EV
      - Gerv
    • johnbeattie85
      johnbeattie85
      Bronze
      Joined: 11.09.2008 Posts: 716
      Hi Gerv. You used to answer my SSS stuff : P

      Well yeah. I know I have odds to call the flush and overcards vs a 66, 88, TT sort of hand. Just the fact that he raised the flop made me paranoid about a shove on the turn, especially since it's draw heavy and he has to protect.
    • MaestroOfZerg
      MaestroOfZerg
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.11.2008 Posts: 5,510
      Hi,


      I think it's fine if MP3 is a decent player considering that you're deep, when he raises that flop into the fish and you his range is basically a set or the nut flush draw.

      That means on the turn he'll either overcall SB's shove when you flat it, in which case he has the nut flush draw and you're drawing to 6 outs, or he'll shove a set and you have to fold. Not to mention SB could very well have a good hand too, just because he's bad doesn't mean he won't luckbox something once in a while.

      That's just ugly, straight folding is just better to keep out of ugly spots.


      Hope it helps.