[NL2-NL10] JTs sb complete NL100

    • RahXephon1
      RahXephon1
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      Joined: 14.04.2009 Posts: 972
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.5/$1 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)

      Known players:
      UTG2:
      $114.10
      MP1:
      $18.50
      MP2:
      $18.00
      MP3:
      $2.65
      CO:
      $38.50
      BU:
      $49.90
      SB(Hero):
      $19.50
      BB:
      $53.80
      UTG1:
      $26.80


      Preflop: Hero is SB with T, J.
      UTG1 calls $1.00, UTG2 calls $1.00, 5 folds, Hero calls $0.50, BB checks.

      Flop: ($4) 8, 2, T (4 players)
      Hero bets $3.00, BB folds, UTG1 calls $3.00, UTG2 folds.

      Turn: ($10) 7 (2 players)
      Hero bets $5.00, UTG1 calls $5.00.

      River: ($20) Q (2 players)
      Hero checks, UTG1 checks.

      Final Pot: $20.
      Results follow:

      Ok to complete?
      Ok to bet flop?
      Ok to bet turn?
      Fire again on river? This one probably not :f_biggrin:
      Fold to river bet?
  • 9 replies
    • Gonzo394
      Gonzo394
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      Joined: 29.12.2007 Posts: 2,181
      quite interesting hand. i like to raise preflop, makes life easier :)

      with your stack you can still play b/f on some flops.

      i like your postflop play.
      river i would play c/f since any 9 has me beat and i don't see what worse hands are betting here.
    • elhh82
      elhh82
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      Joined: 03.09.2008 Posts: 6,838
      i think postflop is played as i would. Try to pick it up on the flop when you hit a top pair with decent kicker.

      What will you do if you get raised after you bet on the flop or on the turn?
    • RahXephon1
      RahXephon1
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      Joined: 14.04.2009 Posts: 972
      I would probably fold, I don't see many worse hands reraising me on flop in a four way pot. those hands tilt me because if I play them passively I get drawn out or get a very little profit and if I play them agressively I collect the pot when everyone folds or I isolate myself against a monster, so my hand basically becomes a bluff.
    • Tim64
      Tim64
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      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 7,402
      I would like stats here to know if utg1 is loose and could be limping rubbish or pps or tight and possibly slowplaying a monster.

      Depending on the above, I may bet the river, or play check/call since we are committed after firing 2 streets, I think.

      Why does any 9 have us beat? J9, certainly - but not any 9, surely?
    • Gonzo394
      Gonzo394
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      Joined: 29.12.2007 Posts: 2,181
      Originally posted by Tim64
      Why does any 9 have us beat? J9, certainly - but not any 9, surely?
      Well, I'll be damned. I knew something didn't feel right. :f_eek:
    • dandycal
      dandycal
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      Joined: 10.10.2008 Posts: 1,711
      I don't really like leading with this hand against UTG limpers (if I don't have muich info). Which hands would be calling/raising you on this flop? Probably sets and TPs with better kickers, so you are just counting with FE against 3 players and I don't think you got much of that.

      This hand is really nice for completing SB, but I usually ch/fold without strong draws, 2 pair+
    • Gerv
      Gerv
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      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      You would need stats to decide whether to raise preflop.

      Firing Flop is okay, I barrel $6 on the Turn and evaluate the River although it ain't a real decision on the River.

      It is basically whether you want to shove River and isolate yourselff agianst a better hand + filtering worser hands

      or that you want to c/c in order to get some value from bluffs.

      Therefore you need statistics to determine this.

      Best regards,
      Gerv
    • dandycal
      dandycal
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      Joined: 10.10.2008 Posts: 1,711
      Hey Gerv, you fire flop but you won't go broke against resistance, not even a raise on that turn is that so? Or would you push Turn to a reraise becuase the board got a little more drawy?

      That is considering we are dealing with unknowns...
    • Gerv
      Gerv
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      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      You can bet/fold Flop without a doubt, QT/KT/AT has you crushed for instance and a board this dry isn't really favourable for you.

      The Turn on the other hand doesn't really give you the luxury of b/f so Bet/Shove there is the best move

      Hope it answers your question ;)

      - Gerv