Switching formats

    • Jeero
      Jeero
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      Joined: 23.04.2009 Posts: 114
      I've been grinding FL for a while and I have had mediocre results to say the least. I'm definately still going to put in the time to learn this format because I want to know I can beat it and all the time I put into it is not a waste. But, it's really hard to get a good winrate. If you become a really good player you can expect 2BB/100H, which is okay if you multi table and you can maintain that winrate multitabling but it's not amazing. I feel like switching gears and trying a new format. I'll still learn FL, but I get way too discouraged trying to grind FL.

      What I would like to know is if there is a thread somewhere comparing the different poker games? What are the advantages/disadvantages of each format? Which format is the easiest to learn? Which format has the worst players? I just learned how to play Omaha and I played a few hundred hands on play money (play money games mean little more than just learning the rules of the game) and this game seems really fun. There is an article that says that you can make 10BB/100H! It also says that the variance is really high,... but at that kind of winrate, is it not better to start with PLO? Also, I'd like to know what NL is like,...
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    • Ejeckt
      Ejeckt
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      Joined: 06.12.2008 Posts: 517
      Originally posted by Jeero
      What I would like to know is if there is a thread somewhere comparing the different poker games? What are the advantages/disadvantages of each format?
      I'd like to know that too. See some breakdown analysis for each variant.

      I considered switching to NL, but I dunno if those aren't too... uhm... shark infested waters. Alot of really good players make NLHE their homegame. So competition can get tough, no?
    • Theman365
      Theman365
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      Joined: 07.05.2009 Posts: 72
      Originally posted by Jeero
      What I would like to know is if there is a thread somewhere comparing the different poker games? What are the advantages/disadvantages of each format?
      This article might help:
      http://www.pokerstrategy.com/strategy/others/1271/
    • Jeero
      Jeero
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      Joined: 23.04.2009 Posts: 114
      Thanks for the link,... I just read that article and I got some useful information from it. I especially liked the conclusion actually. It says that poker should be about enjoyment first, and I really like PLO so far. NL SSS seems really boring so I don't think I'll go into NL cash games just yet. I actually wanted more of a discussion on winrates, fields, ease of learning, variance, etc. For example, for FL I know that 2BB/100H is attainable on the small to medium stakes, but it's really hard to attain at higher stakes and even to attain it at lower stakes take a LOT of work and study. The variance in FL, although high, seems to be the lowest. From one of the PLO articles, it says you can make 10BB/100H in PLO! But the variance is extremely high. I haven't seen anything in the articles for SNG's and NL cash games about winrates, ROI, and variance.
    • KidPokersKid
      KidPokersKid
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      Joined: 27.02.2009 Posts: 653
      Since your already a Holdem player you could try to master other games in the HORSE family this way you would have an advantage at Holdem and maybe learn Omaha Hi/Lo since most players come from the Stud side of these games you will have an edge in the flop games ... Stud games are really fun also the variance in Stud8 isnt very high atleast from my experinces and Razz isnt so bad because most players are pretty bad at it... Stud Hi and Omaha 8 were my least favorite games just because I wasn't so great at them.
    • Jeero
      Jeero
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      Joined: 23.04.2009 Posts: 114
      I really like Omaha Hi, so perhaps I'll play Hi/Lo sometime in the future. I skimmed through one Stud article, and it said that it's completely different from Hold em. So, I think I'll stay away from Stud variants for now.

      Poker Strategy advocates specializing because each variant takes a lot of time to get good at. But, at the root of the poker is how much you enjoy the game right? I tried FL because my local casino only had FL,... it's pretty fun, but when I first played it, I didn't fall in love with it like I did with Omaha. The only thing that's on my mind is the hundreds of hours I spent trying to learn FL,... I think I'm a so-so player in FL, and I like to play it sometimes, so I don't think it's that bad to play both formats. Who knows, maybe one format will help my play in the other, and vice versa.