[NL2-NL10] NL 10 - ugly

    • feedfest
      feedfest
      Bronze
      Joined: 13.06.2009 Posts: 119
      Getting kind of sick of Full Tilt and the horse manure turn cards.
      I know the limp here was weak and wrong to open but I was prepared to call a small raise. I knew I was winning after the flop and had to call down.

      Is this bad play or bad luck? I feel that it was a bad open limp and the rest is not my fault.

      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.05/$0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)

      Known players:
      MP2:
      $5.09
      MP3:
      $9.58
      CO:
      $4.11
      BU:
      $4.26
      SB:
      $4.29
      BB:
      $9.89
      UTG1(Hero):
      $9.80
      UTG2:
      $1.01
      MP1:
      $4.75


      Preflop: Hero is UTG1 with T, 9.
      Hero calls $0.10, 3 folds, MP3 calls $0.10, CO folds, BU calls $0.10, SB folds, BB checks.

      Flop: ($0.45) 5, 9, T (4 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $0.30, MP3 calls $0.30, BU folds, BB folds.

      Turn: ($1.05) 5 (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.80, MP3 raises to $1.80, Hero calls $1.00.

      River: ($4.65) 6 (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP3 bets $2.00, Hero calls $2.00.

      Final Pot: $8.65.
      Results follow:

      Hero shows two pairs, tens and nines(T 9).
      MP3 shows three of a kind, fives(4 5).

      MP3 wins with three of a kind, fives(4 5).
  • 6 replies
    • justkyle88
      justkyle88
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      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 7,598
      Don't post results.
      It gives biased decisions.

      PF: fold. way to many people behind you and your OOP (Out Of Position) for the whole hand with a very marginal hand.

      Flop: bet more, around pot size, board is very drawy and we don't want anyon chasing the Flush or Straight.

      Turn: is fine I think

      River: check/call like you did.

      But your real problems are PF.
    • feedfest
      feedfest
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      Joined: 13.06.2009 Posts: 119
      hey hey, yup i know preflop was not technically sound
      based on the way the table was playing (few raises) i limped with the plan to call a raise of 4-5bb to play for a big flop. I wouldn't raise there because I don't think I call 10bb or something when someone bumps it behind me.

      Is it ever to justify limping here if you are card dead and believe you can get a cheap flop (which panned out)?
    • justkyle88
      justkyle88
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      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 7,598
      No, like I said, T9s is a horrible hand to play OOP.
      You can play these hands IP. But UTG definietly idnt the place to do it.
      Don't start raising hands just because u feel u need to win a hand sometime soon and your card-dead. the cards and situations will come.
    • feedfest
      feedfest
      Bronze
      Joined: 13.06.2009 Posts: 119
      Originally posted by justkyle88
      No, like I said, T9s is a horrible hand to play OOP.
      You can play these hands IP. But UTG definietly idnt the place to do it.
      Don't start raising hands just because u feel u need to win a hand sometime soon and your card-dead. the cards and situations will come.
      you are right
      and limping was wrong anyway
      if i raise there the guy with trips would presumeably have left the hand
      so best choice: stay out
      second best: raise it if you are going to play it
      ?
    • justkyle88
      justkyle88
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      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 7,598
      exactly.
      :)
      SH maybe you can raise with those kind of hands. but FR, there is just way to many hands that can call that will have you smashed.
    • MaestroOfZerg
      MaestroOfZerg
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.11.2008 Posts: 5,510
      Hi,


      I won't go again over the preflop stuff, it's a raise for me but if you don't feel like raising it just pitch it.

      Postflop just pot the flop for protection.

      The turn 5 is a good card, it doesn't complete the obvious draws, makes sets less likely. It kills your two pairs again JJ+ but it's unlikely somebody is in there with those hands given the preflop action. When he raises he's repping basically 5x and maybe a good Tx or random bluffs if he's bad, i think calling is fine.

      River bet really looks like a milking bet but could also be an attempt at bluffing again or "valuebetting" Tx, so given the odds you probably have to call it.


      Hope it helps.