[NL2-NL10] Not so pleasent hands

    • erob60
      erob60
      Gold
      Joined: 08.03.2007 Posts: 165
      These two hands happened within 5 minutes of each other, (though on a different table).


      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)      
      Position:
      Stack
      UTG+1:
      $12.75
      MP3:
      $30.15
      Hero:
      $28.50

      0.10/0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.7 by www.pokerstrategy.cc.

      Preflop: Hero is BU with T:heart: , T:diamond:
      UTG+1 calls $0.25, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls $0.25, MP2 folds, MP3 raises to $1.50, CO folds, Hero calls $1.50, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls $1.25, MP1 folds.

      Flop: ($5.10) 6:heart: , T:club: , 2:heart: (3 players)
      UTG+1 checks, MP3 bets $3.85, Hero calls $3.85, UTG+1 calls $3.85.

      Turn: ($16.65) Q:heart: (3 players)
      UTG+1 checks, MP3 bets $10, Hero calls $10.00, UTG+1 folds.

      River: ($36.65) 6:club: (2 players)
      MP3 bets $14.80 (All-In), Hero raises to $13.15 (All-In).

      Final Pot: $64.60

      Results:
      MP3 shows [ Qd, Qc ] a full house, Queens full of Sixes
      Hero shows [ Th, Td ] a full house, Tens full of Sixes
      MP3 wins $1.65 USD with a full house, Queens full of Sixes.
      MP3 wins $59.95 USD with a full house, Queens full of Sixes.

      At the turn I reasoned that he probably hadn't been on a flush draw given the aggressive play post flop - (how correct would such an assumption have been in general?).

      Any other thoughts here?


      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)      
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $22
      BU:
      $44.27
      MP2:
      $4.15
      BB:
      $3.85

      0.10/0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.7 by www.pokerstrategy.cc.

      Preflop: Hero is UTG with 5:heart: , 5:spade:
      Hero calls $0.25, 3 folds, MP2 calls $0.25, 2 folds, BU calls $0.25, SB folds, BB checks.

      Flop: ($1.10) 6:spade: , 5:club: , J:diamond: (4 players)
      BB checks, Hero checks, MP2 bets $0.25, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, MP2 calls $0.50.

      Turn: ($2.60) Q:club: (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP2 bets $1, Hero raises to $3.00, MP2 raises to $3.15 (All-In), Hero calls $0.15.

      River: ($8.90) 9:heart:


      Final Pot: $8.90

      Results:
      Hero shows [ 5h, 5s ] three of a kind, Fives
      MP2 shows [ Jh, Jc ] three of a kind, Jacks
      MP2 wins $8.50 USD with three of a kind, Jacks.

      Not quite so disasterous given the shorter stack, but still annoying.
  • 4 replies
    • ciRith
      ciRith
      Bronze
      Joined: 25.03.2005 Posts: 18,556
      I moved them for you into the correct forum :)
    • Nogatsira
      Nogatsira
      Bronze
      Joined: 26.02.2007 Posts: 201
      These are just bad luck hands that will come along and theres nothing you can do other then to pay them off :(
    • ottokatz
      ottokatz
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.12.2006 Posts: 88
      1) I think you should raise on the flop (villain probably holds overpair or flush draw with overcards). Slowplay is not a good option here.

      2) Set vs set. Happens sometimes ;)
    • Blinzler
      Blinzler
      Bronze
      Joined: 04.03.2005 Posts: 7,456
      1) i raise the flop in that spot, because we want to somewhat protect and will get value from a lot of the worse hands easier on the flop than on later streeets, when scarecards for them might hit (like the Qh on this board, AA would probably not go broke anymore)

      2) BET FLOP! and if you ever c/r in an unraised pot (which almost never is good) than at least make a reasonable sized raise not an almost minraise of a minbet! You are going broke here always, but you want to get value from worse hands right away.