[NL20-NL50] nl50 88 MP2 - 2ndpair

    • TheBrood
      TheBrood
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      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      BB:
      $71.82
      Hero:
      $112.89

      0.25/0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (7 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 8:club: , 8:spade:
      MP1 folds, Hero raises to $2.00, 4 folds, BB calls $1.50.

      Flop: ($4.25) J:diamond: , 4:heart: , 4:diamond: (2 players)
      BB bets $2.00, Hero calls $2.00.

      Turn: ($8.25) 7:heart: (2 players)
      BB bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50.

      River: ($13.25) 7:diamond: (2 players)
      BB bets $5.50, Hero folds.

      Final Pot: $18.75

      I dont beat anything on the river so I fold.
  • 7 replies
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      it makes your hadn easier to play if you raise flop
      then you don´t have to guess if he has flushdraw or any other sort of hand
    • TheBrood
      TheBrood
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      But at what price? $6.25 more on the flop? and it still doesnt guarantee me a showdown. Hes not folding a draw or a J if I raise. I dont see how it makes it easier.
      I might as well just call the river for a guaranteed showdown.

      With my line, he isnt bluffing 3 streets with deep stack imo.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Originally posted by TheBrood
      But at what price? $6.25 more on the flop? and it still doesnt guarantee me a showdown. Hes not folding a draw or a J if I raise. I dont see how it makes it easier.
      I might as well just call the river for a guaranteed showdown.

      With my line, he isnt bluffing 3 streets with deep stack imo.
      6$ should do the job
      even if he doesn´t fold J or draw, then it is very high chance that he'd checked it down, since you raised flop. If you start calling down, you´re always hoping he is bluffing with flushdraw, which likely is not the best move there
    • TheBrood
      TheBrood
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      Originally posted by Kaitz20
      Originally posted by TheBrood
      But at what price? $6.25 more on the flop? and it still doesnt guarantee me a showdown. Hes not folding a draw or a J if I raise. I dont see how it makes it easier.
      I might as well just call the river for a guaranteed showdown.

      With my line, he isnt bluffing 3 streets with deep stack imo.
      6$ should do the job
      even if he doesn´t fold J or draw, then it is very high chance that he'd checked it down, since you raised flop. If you start calling down, you´re always hoping he is bluffing with flushdraw, which likely is not the best move there
      Raise to $6 or to $8?

      I call flop because he can bluff other hands than FD and also I can float 99, TT. His turn bet is too small to fold. I invest only $4.50 and am pretty sure Im beat on the river vs a guy whos not too aggro.
    • maya1984
      maya1984
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      Kaitz meant that you raise to 6$ to avoid the guessing game that you fell into. pretty simple...
    • TheBrood
      TheBrood
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      Originally posted by maya1984
      Kaitz meant that you raise to 6$ to avoid the guessing game that you fell into. pretty simple...
      Simple for you since youre a judge too
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Originally posted by TheBrood
      Originally posted by maya1984
      Kaitz meant that you raise to 6$ to avoid the guessing game that you fell into. pretty simple...
      Simple for you since youre a judge too
      it is not about that maya is judge, just it makes your hand easier to play. I´d raise to 6$, since I think it is the same as 8$ raise. If he has J, he is going to call and if not the is likely going to fold

      If players start betting flop and turn, there are likely going to be river bet most of the times and since I don´t like calling down I would raise these situations, which might not be the best play but it has worked out for me.