[NL20-NL50] tackling a particular NL25 reg

    • shortfuse
      shortfuse
      Silver
      Joined: 02.07.2009 Posts: 450
      this is guy is very tight/weak

      he limps with EVERYTHING apart from AA. he minraises preflop with AA.

      so one day i pick up KK and face his standard 4x raise preflop. i reraise, and he reraises! he must have AA
      but no; i shoved because i'm an idiot and obvs lost to AA

      i should have seen flop because he always folds if he misses and simply calls with made hands.

      soon after
      i pick up 99 facing his raise; i'll call and hope to spike a set and ruin his rockets.

      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)

      Known players:
      CO:
      $22.92
      BU:
      $32.50
      SB:
      $15.45
      BB:
      $23.43
      UTG2:
      $12.91
      MP1(Hero):
      $25.60
      MP2:
      $9.67
      MP3:
      $40.20


      Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 9, 9.
      UTG2 folds, Hero calls $0.25, MP2 folds, MP3 raises to $1.25, CO raises to $2.25, 3 folds, Hero calls $2.00, MP3 calls $1.00.

      Flop: ($7.1) 8, 9, 2 (4 players)
      Hero bets $5.06, MP3 folds, CO raises to $20.67(All-In), Hero calls $15.61.

      Turn: ($48.44) A (3 players)


      River: ($48.44) 3 (3 players)


      Final Pot: $48.44.
      Results follow:

      CO shows three of a kind, aces(A A).
      Hero shows three of a kind, nines(9 9).

      CO wins with three of a kind, aces(A A).

      what was turning into a good session got all screwed up by a guy who plays like a predictable robot.

      the question is what do you do with KK vs someone who you are quite sure only raises with AA but there is a chance you may be wrong! I've seen many of his hands and he only limps with high pockets.
  • 12 replies
    • shortfuse
      shortfuse
      Silver
      Joined: 02.07.2009 Posts: 450
      just checked elephant.
      his VPIP is 13% and open raise is 1% aggression: 0.5

      says a lot
    • shortfuse
      shortfuse
      Silver
      Joined: 02.07.2009 Posts: 450
      oh why oh why didnt i fold KK dammit
    • shortfuse
      shortfuse
      Silver
      Joined: 02.07.2009 Posts: 450
      also i really wanted to fold those kings but then i would have to post it up here and you guys would all slate me so it would eat my mind for weeks did he have aces? i had to know
    • radyan111
      radyan111
      Bronze
      Joined: 03.07.2008 Posts: 1,151
      I would go for it and play for stacks.

      Next time just call for set value :)
    • xponentx
      xponentx
      Bronze
      Joined: 10.02.2008 Posts: 341
      In my opinion, if you have a decent amount of hands on him and his stats are still around the 1% PFR mark, then you need to consider maybe folding if you've only seen raises with AA. However, the advanced reraise ranges in the strategy section always say to reraise with KK.

      I think either option is ok, I wouldn't blame a fold or a reraise.
    • maya1984
      maya1984
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.12.2008 Posts: 1,741
      Calling for set value with KK is bad.
      You gonna need a very big sample of hands to be sure he only raises pf with AA. moreover mathematically 1% pfr is KK+.
      So don't feel bad about it, it's an easy go broke with KK for 100BB stacks. and also even if he happen to have AA you have 20% chances to suck out.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      when you´re very sure, then just call pf and play postflop
      He maybe doesn´t want to bet all streets big and you can get your hand to showdwon
    • shortfuse
      shortfuse
      Silver
      Joined: 02.07.2009 Posts: 450
      i've seen him go to showdown with KK,QQ many times and he never raises these preflop. hes VERY TIGHT WEAK

      i saved a lot of money playing JJ on ragged board and when he bets on the river i simply call and he shows KK.

      words cannot describe how frustrated i feel about not following my gut instinct...


      ps thanks for all the responses its good to have many opinions! :D

      i think i have around 500 hands on this guy. not a lot but its the fact he is so weak that any aggression from him is a sure sign on a monster. in fact, if he is still in the hand then you can be sure you are behind!
    • GrantJennings
      GrantJennings
      Bronze
      Joined: 31.07.2008 Posts: 232
      Word. I hate that feeling where your instincts are right, and you talk yourself out of it, usually because you have some bit of poker trivia jangling around in your brain that tells you that the "correct" action is the exact opposite of what you feel.

      This is one of the worst feelings in poker, but I think that they can show us parts of our game where we can make a breakthrough and go to another level.

      OMG the fish at my table has limped into 6 straight pots :s_o: . My instincts are telling me I have to go play some hands before he goes broke!
    • shortfuse
      shortfuse
      Silver
      Joined: 02.07.2009 Posts: 450
      this is how sure i was, i would have ratholed and left myself with $5 to ship it. though this is only a theoretical idea...
    • excelgeo
      excelgeo
      Silver
      Joined: 17.10.2008 Posts: 1,107
      if you know he has AA, i would play every time.

      easy to play postflop if you know what the opponent is holding.

      you just pick the spot and break him.
    • shortfuse
      shortfuse
      Silver
      Joined: 02.07.2009 Posts: 450
      Originally posted by excelgeo
      if you know he has AA, i would play every time.

      easy to play postflop if you know what the opponent is holding.
      you just pick the spot and break him.
      yer and look how the turn card went lol