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Bad luck or bad play?

    • maxtorz
      Joined: 08.09.2009 Posts: 5
      I go to a student night at a local casino for weekly poker tournaments and most of the time i get to the final table out of 80-100 people but this time around i was out first.

      BB=50 chips = 3000

      This afternoon on the first hand of the tournament i receive K :spade: Q :heart: in SB position
      1 player folds, 6 players simply limp in while the blinds are tiny, so i raise to 6BB
      4 players fold while 1 in middle position calls and another re-raises to 12BB which i call and the other player calls as well.

      Flop = Q :diamond: J :club: 6 :spade:
      so i attempt to squeeze something out of flopping top pair by betting 4BB
      the player that was calling folded but the one that re-raised went all in, i thought fantastic and called, and it was a relief to see Q :spade: 7 :spade: was his hand.

      turn = 10 :spade:
      river = ace :spade:
      and theres me out of the tournament, was my play entirely wrong and idiotic or was it just bad luck?
  • 2 replies
    • GrantJennings
      Joined: 31.07.2008 Posts: 232
      Obviously you know the tone of these events well. I play in a soft live game also, and I'm either out in the first hour or I win. If I understand you correctly, you start this game with 50 bb? That's not a lot of room, so top pair King Kickker is certainly a hand I'd be willing to go broke with in a raised pot, especially if I'm at a table full of feebs.

      I might just check preflop, but I might raise. You are playing 9 handed and there are 6 callers, your KQ is probably second best at the moment, so we can't call a bet a valuebet, it's more like a steal. If I raised, I might raise potsized to 10bb. Lets say I'd check 70% of the time, and raise 30%.

      MP's limp - 3 bet is such a weird play since he isn't open limping. Without a read on this player, I don't give him credit for a hand, but I do figure him for a fish. I'm certainly calling his reraise, despite being sandwiched.

      On the flop, there's 41 bb in the pot, right? You've got 38 bb left and have top pair, so you are committed to the pot. I think the question here is how best to get all of the fish's chips into the pot. If you bet 4bb knowing that the fish would respond with aggression, as he did preflop, then it was the perfect play. I'd bet about 15-20 BB, intending to put the rest in on the Turn.

      This is just a bad beat, of course. How could it be a bad play for you to lose here?

      Next time, tip the dealer.
    • maxtorz
      Joined: 08.09.2009 Posts: 5
      great thanks