Set over set gets even sicker

    • gavinonymous
      gavinonymous
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      Joined: 18.12.2008 Posts: 1,146
      Something up with the atmosphere today? I've never seen so many weird hands on pokerstars within 2 hours. Maybe because I don't usually play at these hours (it's a very different game!)

      After losing 3 stacks - twice when my card hit the river also hit someone else better (/whine) This happens:

      Play hand

      $0.25/$0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)

      Known players:
      BU:
      $69.35
      SB:
      $42.35
      BB:
      $54.45
      MP3:
      $56.00
      CO(Hero):
      $50.75


      Preflop: Hero is CO with 5, 5.
      MP3 folds, Hero raises to $2.00, BU folds, SB calls $1.75, BB raises to $7.00, Hero calls $5.00, SB calls $5.00.

      Flop: ($21) T, 8, 5 (3 players)
      SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $14.00, SB calls $14.00, BB folds.

      Turn: ($49) 6 (2 players)
      SB bets $6.50, Hero raises to $29.75(All-In), SB calls $14.85.

      Yeh, I probably should fold here right? Is he trying to suckbet me with AA?

      River: ($100.1) 5 (0 players)
      SB gets uncalled bet back.

      Results follow:

      Hero shows four of a kind, fives(5h 5c).
      SB shows a full-house, tens full of fives(Ts Td).

      Hero wins with four of a kind, fives(5h 5c).

      It's just sick.. poker is just plain sick sometimes.
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    • Atoks
      Atoks
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      Joined: 01.06.2008 Posts: 1,354
      It's called sucking out and u better make sure u treasure the moments u do suckout ... they should come along more often tbh ... NH tho I couldn't fold either :)
    • shortfuse
      shortfuse
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      Joined: 02.07.2009 Posts: 450
      this has happened against me countless times lol
    • shanshichi
      shanshichi
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      Joined: 28.04.2009 Posts: 378
      happend to me on pokerstars twice in a day with the same pocket pair , 77, and the same pocket pair that beat me , 88 (both of the pairs hitting the set ). :f_eek: . CAN'T FOLD !
    • GrantJennings
      GrantJennings
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      Joined: 31.07.2008 Posts: 232
      Meh, at these limits, some players see red when they hit top pair top kickker with AT. I'm not folding a set, unless it's against a player whos patterns I know VERY WELL.

      Dan Harrington says that, when someone tells him a story about how they just "knew" that their opponent had a better set, so they folded middle set, he says to himself "sucker"

      that being said, I'd never think this suckout was bad poker. Set over set is one of the most brutal situations in holdem, and unless there's four to a straight or a flush to slow the betting down, you're in for a lot of pain. If my opponent makes this suckout against me, I'ts "NICE HAND" in the chat, and maybe a 5 minute time out while I de-frazzle.
    • shortfuse
      shortfuse
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      Originally posted by GrantJennings
      Meh, at these limits, some players see red when they hit top pair top kickker with AT. I'm not folding a set, unless it's against a player whos patterns I know VERY WELL.

      Dan Harrington says that, when someone tells him a story about how they just "knew" that their opponent had a better set, so they folded middle set, he says to himself "sucker"

      that being said, I'd never think this suckout was bad poker. Set over set is one of the most brutal situations in holdem, and unless there's four to a straight or a flush to slow the betting down, you're in for a lot of pain. If my opponent makes this suckout against me, I'ts "NICE HAND" in the chat, and maybe a 5 minute time out while I de-frazzle.
      serious?
    • andreibalint
      andreibalint
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      Joined: 11.04.2009 Posts: 872
      During a single hour i lost today twice with a full house so don't tell me about weird things going on lol. (oh, and in case you think i'm massively multitabling i played 2 tables)
    • TheBrood
      TheBrood
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      Joined: 17.07.2008 Posts: 4,383
      Yesterday I lost with middle set vs top set and didn't even tilt because of the cooler
    • GrantJennings
      GrantJennings
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      Joined: 31.07.2008 Posts: 232
      Yep, I'm serious.

      I see it less often at P-Stars, and I'm playing 25c, not 50. but at Pacific Poker, I saw this a lot at 50c shorthanded tables.
    • andyb43
      andyb43
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      got knocked out of an SnG earlier with a set of A to quad 3's......
    • NIVEKii
      NIVEKii
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      Originally posted by andyb43
      got knocked out of an SnG earlier with a set of A to quad 3's......
      [ ] set

      [x] full house
    • andyb43
      andyb43
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      Originally posted by NIVEKii
      Originally posted by andyb43
      got knocked out of an SnG earlier with a set of A to quad 3's......
      [ ] set

      [x] full house
      talking about the flop................
    • stewil007
      stewil007
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      Was in a tourney yesterday, had 88 in MP. EP1 goes all in for a third of my stack.....So i'm thinking race and decide to fold......LP calls him and EP1 shows AQ Hearts.

      Flop 10H 8 8 <- at this point i'm cursing
      Turn Kh
      River........I'm sure you can guess what came :)

      Sometimes you just know.....LOL
    • NIVEKii
      NIVEKii
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      Originally posted by andyb43
      Originally posted by NIVEKii
      Originally posted by andyb43
      got knocked out of an SnG earlier with a set of A to quad 3's......
      [ ] set

      [x] full house
      talking about the flop................
      You can't get knocked out of a sng on the flop, besides, when he hits quads on the flop, you have still flopped a fh...
    • kingdippy2008
      kingdippy2008
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      Hello gavinonymous,

      I like how you played the hand. I think a set is a standard broke without reads as there are so many 2 pair or over pair combinations that they could likely play the same ;)

      But ofc, nice one outer ^^

      Good luck and best regards,

      -Jack
    • TheBrood
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      Originally posted by stewil007
      Was in a tourney yesterday, had 88 in MP. EP1 goes all in for a third of my stack.....So i'm thinking race and decide to fold......LP calls him and EP1 shows AQ Hearts.

      Flop 10H 8 8 <- at this point i'm cursing
      Turn Kh
      River........I'm sure you can guess what came :)

      Sometimes you just know.....LOL
      Another 8?
    • Berzerger
      Berzerger
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      This really made me sick when the cards were flipped over.

      http://cakepoker.com/en/HandHistory/Default.aspx?Hand=xsTExcTFwM3DzcTExMTCwIjNxMDCwMI%3d
    • andyb43
      andyb43
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      Joined: 23.07.2008 Posts: 903
      Originally posted by NIVEKii
      Originally posted by andyb43
      Originally posted by NIVEKii
      Originally posted by andyb43
      got knocked out of an SnG earlier with a set of A to quad 3's......
      [ ] set

      [x] full house
      talking about the flop................
      You can't get knocked out of a sng on the flop, besides, when he hits quads on the flop, you have still flopped a fh...
      knitpicker

      My My aren't you the little knitpicker?

      Flop A37

      turn J

      river 3
    • Faye6891
      Faye6891
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      Ah, your hand is not as sick as mine! :P
      Played this one sometime last year, had to dig through my database to find it. I probably didn't play it very well, but it's still a sick hand... and we're both 200BB deep.

      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.25/$0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)

      Known players:
      MP3:
      $56.70
      CO:
      $47.75
      BU:
      $40.30
      SB(Hero):
      $99.50
      BB:
      $34.80
      UTG1:
      $99.25
      UTG2:
      $40.45
      MP1:
      $100.25
      MP2:
      $47.85


      Preflop: Hero is SB with 6, 6.
      UTG1 calls $0.50, UTG2 folds, MP1 raises to $2.25, 4 folds, Hero calls $2.00, BB folds, UTG1 calls $1.75.

      Flop: ($7.25) 7, 6, 2 (3 players)
      Hero checks, UTG1 checks, MP1 bets $4.00, Hero calls $4.00, UTG1 calls $4.00.

      Turn: ($19.25) 7 (3 players)
      Hero checks, UTG1 checks, MP1 bets $8.00, Hero raises to $16.00, UTG1 calls $16.00, MP1 folds.

      River: ($59.25) 6 (2 players)
      Hero bets $50.00, UTG1 raises to $77.00(All-In), Hero calls $27.00.

      Final Pot: $213.25.
      Results follow:

      UTG1 shows four of a kind, sevens(7 7).
      Hero shows four of a kind, sixs(6 6).

      UTG1 wins with four of a kind, sevens(7 7).
    • RaunoPoke
      RaunoPoke
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      Joined: 26.09.2009 Posts: 21
      dang at this quads vs quads bro..
      i quess no one even thinking of that u can lose with a hand like this...
      god dam lol.
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