What does it mean when blue line (EV) goes below 0 ?

    • FWKanobi
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      that I'm dealt bad cards or that I'm pushing all in when I shouldn't ?
      How can I know what my leaks are from this ?

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    • gavinonymous
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      What are your stats? Are you playing FR, SH, fixed or no limit?

      To me it looks like you are playing too many hands and getting it in with the worst hand too often but I could be wrong. Is AT<AQ familiar?
    • FWKanobi
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      NL10 SSS - 12 tables.
      played 14.6K hands over 28.5 hours.

    • deVall3y
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      15k hands isnt that big sample size, and you should expect high variance using SSS. though this is a bit worrying because according to the EV you are losing money. I would suggest trying to improve whatever leaks you can fix which you should do anyway, and work towards a larger sample size. if you arent winning money after another 15k hands you are probably doing something wrong
    • jonnyjm
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      Overating your showdown value i'd say...

      Looks ugley to me...
    • thedahl
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      Don't play as many hands and get all your money in preflop.
    • SheepMoose
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      Usually a sign that you're playing bad.
    • FWKanobi
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      Originally posted by SheepMoose
      Usually a sign that you're playing bad.
      Could it be because I try to steal a lot ?
    • jonnyjm
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      Originally posted by FWKanobi
      Originally posted by SheepMoose
      Usually a sign that you're playing bad.
      Could it be because I try to steal a lot ?
      No because you dont go all in when you steal....or maybe you do? i dont know...but if you do and your getting called alot then your not stealing...
    • FWKanobi
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      I'm not.
      I'm going all in only with JJ+ AK+ and sometimes when i think dealer or CO try to steal blinds and I have good hand (not premium).

      What makes the blue line climb up ? pushing all in when Im favorite only ?
      If someone raise and I push with QQ / AK and it appears he have KK-AA , It will cause the EV line go down.. no ? (which happens couple of time)
    • Dragar
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      Blue line below 0 is bad play. Your getting your money in behind.

      We cannot analyse why because we do not know the hands.

      I think the best thing to do is check your losing hands and post them.
    • alejandrosh
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      14k hands don't mean too much. ev line and redline on hem/pt also have variance (you get coolered a ton, get no cards, everyone c/c psb with weak draws and river them etc...)

      it's way more important to review your play than look for luck graphs and stuff