is my SSS graph wrong?

    • wowadvisor
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      Hi all,

      I have a strange graph... just after 35500 hands my showdown winnings drop down steadily and my non-showdown winnings increase steadily.

      is this right for sss? if not what did i change that caused this?? I just cant figure it out!



      Click the above picture for a larger picture of my graph

      :s_confused:
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    • timukasr
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      That graph is impossible to do with SSS , please post your stats. :f_eek:
    • wowadvisor
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      Hi,

      my stats are:
      VPIP: 14.9
      PFR: 13.7
      WTSD%: 40.1
      AF: 6.04
      Steal %: 40.1
      StealSuccess%: 71.1

      if u like to know more stats let me know..


      Just after the 36500hand mark.. my graph turned out like this. I must have changed something in my game but i dont know what :f_confused:
    • radyan111
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      Reality split!
    • wowadvisor
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      thanks for your helpful comment :) this will help me figure out whats going wrong :f_confused:
    • Smileyphil
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      My graph has the blue and red line swopped over.

      My guess would be that you are being very aggressive and forcing people to fold (Thus the non-SD is extremely positive) however you are often behind at a showdown.

      Do you often 3bet all in with hands like AT/AJ/88/99?
    • wowadvisor
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      yes but only against fish , i 3bet them preflop when they have a very high PFR and WTSD
    • anakonda13
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      I would just like to know how i can get one of those graphs. I am currently in Cake Poker.

      Thanks in advanced :)
    • shortfuse
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      Can we see all allin ev line?

      At first glance your too loose, but this looks like advanced SSS.
      It seems like you are just shoving in bad spots when others have better hands. Since your non showdown winnings are good it must mean your showdown is bad!

      Can I see cbet stats and call cbet stats?
      Though you shouldn't really be calling many cbets, should have shoved pre to avoid tricky situations like that with a short stack.

      I can't offer solid advice from own experience as I have none; I'm just trying to make an educated guess.
    • superjunk
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      Wow.. =)
      Like shortfuse says, you look to loose.. you got BSS FR stats.. :P
      I play like 8/7..
      Wich hands do you shove with if there are donks limping or raising ?
    • wowadvisor
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      im not too loose. thats not the problem for sure.
      Im also a winning player overal :) my bb/100 is positive and i get nice amounts with bonuses and rakeback.



      cbet stats:

      3bet%: 6.9
      Fold vs 3Bet%: 38.8
      squeeze%: 4.6
      3betSuccess: 41.1 :f_cry:
    • wowadvisor
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      so nobody can tell me whats going wrong? im just going all in at the wrong times?
    • lennonac
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      You need to post all the stats you can and tell us a little how you handle all in situations
    • Gerv
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      My WTSD was around 30%-32% so I think u go to the showdown a lot more with losing/marginal hands as a result of your looseness

      I don't think 14/13 is a must on 50NL unless you prefer to play on tight tables 24/7. I do recommend u to play this style on the higher limits
    • wowadvisor
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      i play the table/people not the cards :) im a winning player overal im just trying to improve :)

      my WTSD% = 38.7%
    • Sale1337
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      Originally posted by wowadvisor
      so nobody can tell me whats going wrong? im just going all in at the wrong times?
      let me make something clear :)
      I had exact same graph, when I was breakeven and exat same vpip (around 15) and I was wondering same questions, wtf was I doin wrong. Than I decided to tighten up, and the red line stayed close to 0, the blue line went up (SD winnings). I personally think, that playing more than 13VPIP is crap, light 3betting is a nnormal thing against a loose guys....
      And a hint, do check your positional stats, I am quite sure you will be amazed :)

      LAterz
    • wowadvisor
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      thanks a lot :) i will try this today :f_cool:
    • superjunk
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      What a difference.. :P
      Do you use Skype ? would like to talk with you.
      So i can bring you'r showdown line up, and you my non showdown line.. =)
    • Ishindar
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      i watched him play last night and it looks like his preflop bet sizes are so large that people fold their worse hands and tend to call with better hands. overall hes winning handsomely so no need to adjust anything :)

      @superjunk if u improved that non showdown line u could win handsomely. it is possible to have both showdown and nonshowdown lines going positive! if u want some advise on this send me a PM.
    • raun
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      i think you steal too much.
      what is your w$sd?

      @anaconda thats not possible unfortunately
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